Monday, 27 June 2011

On The Covers Of Flashpoint No 1; "Kid Flash Lost" # 1 & "Reverse Flash"


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What is it that’s going on in Francis Manapul’s cover for “Kid Flash Lost”? Neither a generic could-be-on-any-cover poster shot nor an effective slice-of-narrative snare, Mr Manapul’s work seems so purposeless and ill-judged that it could almost be a submission for a competitiondesigned to find the most apparently accomplished and yet ultimately ennui-inspiring of covers. For there’s no doubt that that big frightened head catches the eye, and the technical business of the foreshortening of Kid Flash’s body is impressive, but the design as a whole offers little else to turn such promising elements into an absolutely compelling, you-must-buy-me front cover.

It’s impossible not to feel that something’s definitely going on here, but what it is and, most importantly, why the reader should care is impossible to deduce. A quick first glance is, I suspect, therefore often swiftly followed by a speedy turning away. And so, although Bart Allen’s expression is undoubtedly one of a boy who’s been catapulted from a speeding bike towards a profoundly unyielding wall, the design gives us no sense of wherever it is that Kid Flash is crashing towards or of the situation that he’s racing away from. Because of that, “Kid Flash Lost” appears to be being sold off of the audience’s presumed interest in a teen superhero’s contextless panic. If you’re the sort of the person who can imagine finding a disembodied head fronted by pouting and kissable lips erotic, or a weeping face of itself tragically compelling, then no doubt the simple sight of a Bart Allen being fear-stricken by something – something – which is before him may well interest you. To many of the rest of us, I suspect, the sight of an event that’s a great deal more beguiling than a single boy’s scared face would be required to transform our browsing into buying.

       
Still, terror is something of a hook upon which to try to snare the reader’s attention, but Mr Manapul’s composition seems almost purposefully designed to confound itself, to deny the reader any extra information that might turn that fearful youth into a scenario which demands investigation. Yes, having Bart’s head effectively cropped by the logo does create a sense that the action we’re seeing is so urgent, his forward motion so extreme, that it can’t even be represented in the frame of the cover without Kid Flash roaring through the top of it. Yet Bart’s body is placed precisely in the centre of the cover, equidistant from each of the vertical sides, leaving it feeling suspended between then rather than dynamically racing through them. In truth, he seems far more a ship in a bottle that a cork being forced out from it. And Kid Flash’s body is, if you cover up his face, patently not that of a superhero who’s out of control. With his hands balled into fists and his legs apparently running forward in an everyday speedster-superheroic fashion, what we have here is a relatively calm body that clearly doesn’t belong to its own panicking head. Certainly what we’re not seeing is a body that’s out of control, that’s desperately trying to brace itself or even avoid a collision of whatever cataclysmic sort awaits. Worse yet, the one part of the composition that is redolent of urgency and excitement, namely Bart’s head, plays second fiddle to the complex and confusing set of logos at the head of the design. In fact, so finicky is the double logo, and particularly the three-part “kid-FLASH-lost” design, that it creates the sense that the drama at hand is one of Bart suddenly realising that he can’t get his haircut under that ugly mass of lettering, which, had it been intended as a gag, might at least have had the virtue of a smidgen of fanboy half-humour.
        
           
Yet the design might still have worked to a degree if it had been accompanied by information explaining to us whatever it is that Kid Flash is so frightened of. Even a clue about how he'd come to this predicament might have turned a generic shot of shock into something of a narrative. But instead, the cover’s been crowded up with elements which quite derail the figure’s sense of forward motion without offering any clarity of purpose to the action at all. And so, the futuristic city that’s been placed behind Bart is one seen from high above ground level, meaning that Bart appears at second glance to be levitating upwards, or even flying,  rather than running forwards. If that was the intention, then a great deal more context needed delivering, as well as more work being done to establish that Bart’s not in control of his movement at all. (Flashes, after all, can't fly.) Finally, and catastrophically, the design motif of a Shazam-esque lightning bolt has been added to the composition, meaning that the reader’s few remaining hopes of avoiding utter confusion are totally short-circuited. Are we supposed to believe that Bart is fearful of running into a cartoon krackle jagging across his path straight above him? And if so, how can any reader grasp that what appears to be the crudest of design affectations is actually the vital jeopardy in the scene?

What? It’s not intended to be any such thing? Sometimes a lightning bolt is just a lightning bolt? Well what’s it doing there in the first place then? First rule of design; if part of the composition isn’t absolutely necessary, then it should be ruthlessly cut, because if it isn’t helping, then it’s inevitably cluttering up the situation. Yet worse than not contributing to the effect of the whole is the element so placed that it inevitably confuses. With the background here presenting the reader with a vanishing point somewhere behind Bart’s chest insignia, and with that lightning bolt instead drawing the readers gaze down and away from there for no good reason at all, we end up with a design that’s simultaneously focusing our eye at one place while purposelessly dragging our gaze away from it too. Both over-busy and strangely static, teasingly dynamic and yet compositionally stymieing, the cover to “Flashpoint: Kid Flash Lost” looks like nothing other than one of a number of artist’s rough ideas waiting for an Art Director’s feedback. What happened, I wonder, to the real cover?




2.

The very worst of sincerly-meant work, to bowdlerise Gore Vidal, has its own integrity, and it's undoubtedly true. For example, you couldn't fake a truly juvenile piece of work such as that which fronts “Flashpoint: Reverse Flash”, because the exhausting excesses of cynicism and thwarted craftmanship that that would demand would inevitably show through as a contempt for the reader. Despite the fact that Ardian Syaf and Vicente Cifuentes’s work is as irredeemably awful an example of comic book art as has ever been seen on a DC Comic's cover, it's still suffused with an enthusiasm and a glee which quite subverts any attempt to evaluate it on any level beyond that of Fanboy-Majeure. If this had been presented to the reader as a doodle which had been sketched out painstakingly by a 13 year old sitting at the back of a Civics lesson, a certain degree of admiration might have been merited simply by the fact that so little knowledge and so much devout fanboyness had been combined to produce an entirely obsessive piece of work. Lost in their apparent adoration of the very idea of the post-Image superhero, Mr Syaf and Mr Cifuentes have moved beyond all non-class of '91 artistic influences into the word of the almost-pure fanboy ideal, where little beyond the devotee’s enthusiasm and a vague sense of both Lee and Leifeld powers their achievements. And so, what we have here is a vision of what a super-villain would look like if matters of conventional anatomy and design were irrelevant, and if the sincerity of fan-affection were all. It's a cover that's irradiated with an intense emotional sense of how important and how frightening a hyper-fast super-villain really must be, and, just as an unkissed youth can summon up what a naked lover might just conceivably look like, they've conjured up an image which is, although neither anatomically accurate or conventionally attractive, most certainly fit for the purposes required. It's impossible not to marvel as well as shudder at those excitingly jutting elbows of Zooms, for example, as if meat cleavers had been surgically inserted into his arm joints just to make him even more pointily-impressive. And there's surely a temptation to revel in the analism of the lattice work which appears to be describing this Flash-fiend’s neck. Is that scar tissue? Is it perhaps an alien parasite under Zoom's costume? Or is this how an artist largely unconcerned with the greater tradition of comic book art suggests the flowing of blood through a super-runner’s veins? No matter, it's superhero porn, and, as Lincoln once said of a book he enjoyed not a whit, those who enjoy this kind of thing will enjoy this, though there's not a hope in hell that anyone beyond a sub-section of the obsessional ever will.. 

       
No conventionally conscientious and competent artist could produce work such as this, because it’d be obvious that they were mocking the audience, that they were deliberately moronisising their work in a desperate attempt to attract a rump of readers with the most incestuously-peculiar of tastes. But Mr Syaf ‘s work seems almost to suggest that of a man who draws like this all the time, even when he’s not managing to convince DC to pay him for covers such as these. On the back of bus tickets found in his jacket pockets, we might imagine, should our entirely-imaginary Mr Syaf ever actually leave the house, are drawings of tiny little bundles of lycra-covered muscles lovingly detailed with hatching, cross-hatching and yet unnamed species of hyper-hatching operating down to the quantum level.

And it’s the way that the art here combines an absolute incompetence with an utter disinterest in the fundamentals of design and figurework that most fascinates. For example, you can trace your way through the past 50 and more years of Flash covers, as I did this morning, and find quite literally less than a handful of them where an energetically racing speedster has been shown cut off at the knee in the manner that the Reverse-Flash has been here. It is of course a cardinal rule of composition that a body is never shown cut off at the knee unless there’s an incredibly specific purpose matched with an unarguably good reason for doing so. Crop at the knee and at the very best, a body looks plain awkward. Crop a running man at the knee without a compelling reason to do so and all that’s created is the sense that the artist can’t draw the human leg, which the strange conglomeration of pseudo-muscles shown on Zoom’s thighs here would seem to confirm. With the incorruptibility of the most truly appalling but sincerely meant superheroic piffle, the figure of Zoom here undoubtedly carries a sense of swagger and pace, but the more the eye rests on the facts of the art rather than that which it adolescently evokes, the more repellently absurd it becomes. Like an innocent shopper faced with an incredibly fast and yet utterly out-of-tune guitar solo being played by a talentless but entirely sincere would-be axe-spanker in a guitar shop, the reader feels surely torn between howling with derision and applauding with a pity and even awe most commonly elicited by outsider art.


Extra marks should be awarded, of course, for the detail scattered across the cover without reference to any compositional principles whatsoever. Negative space is randomly filled up here with what upon weary-eyed inspection reveals itself to be part of Batman’s costume, and here by tokens of other superheroes too. There’s comicbook lightning crackles and spears and lots of squirrely lines! There’s things doing things everywhere!

And in that, this cover undoubtedly has integrity. It’s not rushed, it’s not cynical, it’s not manipulative, it’s not characterised by weariness, it’s not going through the motions, it’s not marked by a longing to be off producing storyboards and film posters. It’s the product of a sensibility that's entirely in love with the most crack-concentrated view of the super-person that’s it possible to hold. We should applaud both the good-hearted naivety and the intensely-focused endeavour of the artists, while wondering exactly how it is again that DC intends to sell its books to anyone beyond the most rabidly obsessed and ill-discerning of fanboy audiences.

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26 comments:

  1. Worse yet, from my point of view, is that the cover has nothing to do with the comic's interior. Zoom's in it, of course, but none of the heroes he apparently tears to pieces here.

    It's not the only Flashpoint cover to do this, however, which tells me the covers were probably crafted (if that is the word) independently of the stories. A common problem in today's comics.

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  2. Hello Colin,

    Just to play devil's advocate -- I'm not keen on that cover myself -- it's "Kid Flash Lost," and isn't it sort of reasonable to represent that with panic and lack of context? Not something that makes you want to pick the thing up, but at least you can see what they might have been thinking. And if it's that Flashpoint stuff, there probably wasn't anything else in the comic itself that they could have used to touch on an actual human emotion, anyway.

    I miss Brian Bolland. The cover to Marvel's Mystery Men #2 wasn't bad, though.

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  3. Hello Siskoid:- AND ANOTHER THING!!!! :)

    The decoupling of cover-topic from interior content is a deeply disturbing example of a wider problem, namely an assumption that the audience is a captive one. Why reach out why anything sells? It's horribly complacent, though much easier to do than work on making the cover attractive to readers .

    This is surely an insane world, even on the micro-micro-level of comic books :)

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  4. On the Kid Flash cover, the background seems to be an afterthought, perhaps not even designed by the artist. Possibly Manapul sold a sketch of Kid Flash at a con, only for the purchaser to sell it to a desperate editor who ran it through Photoshop for about 20 minutes. If Kid Flash is supposed to be moving, aren't there ways of conveying movement beyond one bent leg? Why are his arms so rigid? Why is he looking at his logo? Why is he running at a 90 degree angle into a passing lightning bolt?

    The Reverse Flash artist at least conveys the character is moving very fast. Beyond that, it's barely clear he's wearing a costume, thanks to one arm obscuring his logo and the shading trying to conceal the fact our oh-so-grim master villain wears banana yellow.

    >how it is again that DC intends to sell its books to anyone beyond the most rabidly obsessed and ill-discerning of fanboy audiences.

    Wipe the foam from your mouth, my friend, there's more Flashpoint to come...

    (I kid because I love)

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  5. Hello Brian:- you're always here, devil's advocate or not. My response would be to suggest that any general image that has to rely on the title to give any sense of context to isn't doing it job. It's that ol'Pop business, I suspect. Yes, I agree that a general meaning could be deduced. But it's not concise and precise and compelling and exciting, is it? It doesn't reach out and say YOU MUST READ THIS! Whether it's a grand Kirby-Kosmic cover or a beautifully quiet and involving piece of work such as appeared on several of the chapters of 'Born Again', covers are meant to count. If not, m'learned Deveil's Advocate, we might as well not have them, since obviously only the title counts.

    Oh! That's a frightening thought.

    I know not the MMM cover. I shall just go Google .....

    .... ooohh, I don't know how I feel about the composition, but it's definitely interesting, and that means that it's starting to do its job. I guess I'd better go check out the series ...

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  6. Hello Michael:- Your examples are all excellent ones. I like looking at the fact that a cover such as this SEEMS to make sense because we EXPECT it to do so, and then scratching away at the choices made. But I wish I'd done it the other way round, as you did, simply asking questions of the picture itself :)

    But whichever way we look at it, these Flashpoint books are nearly all awful. They're contemptuous of the audience in a quite pernicious way. We're told they're part of a longterm plan, but they read as if they were thrown together as place-savers until the new millenium arrives. Either they're second class books buying time for the new look, in which case DC should be ashamed, or they're characteristic of what's a-coming, in which case ... oh, dear.

    I feel like I'm in the middle of a who-dunnit and I haven't got the faintest what's going on :) I have a natural inclination to want to believe the best of everyone and I'm as big a fan of DC as I am of Marvel.

    But I'm foaming, Michael, I'm foaming ..

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  7. 'Those who enjoy this kind of thing will enjoy this, though there's not a hope in hell that anyone beyond a sub-section of the obsessional ever will.' Oh dear, my ears are burning again :-)

    While the Kid Flash cover doesn't do it for me, the Reverse Flash cover I found instinctively appealing at a first glance. And yet, I can't refute any of your criticisms of it. Moreover, you seem to have expertly anticipated the fact that it appeals to me, by acknowledging that it has a certain crass integrity that will appeal to the fanboy set and no further.

    The funniest thing about that cover, especially given your remarks on its 90s influences, is Reverse Flash's left foot. Because the most common criticism of Rob Liefeld over the years (and many people have turned slagging him off into an obsession and an art in itself, to the extent that in my perverse way it makes we want to defend him) is that the one part of the human anatomy he has the greatest trouble with is the foot. Especially in his pre-Image work for Marvel, you often see feet rendered as the most curious of shapes, ostensibly justified by the fact that they're pointing away in odd directions from characters in action poses, often into the background.

    Well here you have the archetypal Liefeld 'odd foot', with the archetypal Liefeld 'disappearing into the background' justification, and yet it sort of works! In fact, it goes one step further by adding a curvature that distorts the entire leg (distorts it beyond the foreshortening effect and other factors) and echoes the pose of the right arm, and yet sort of works in the context of conveying extreme speed. In fact, if Reverse Flash is going REALLY fast, such distortions could even be a result of his beginning to catch up with the light that permits us to see him (I say, doing my best Jack B Quick from Tomorrow Stories impression).

    All of which is to say that your remarks are scarily spot-on, Colin. Your criticisms are persuasive, and yet you also know that the second cover will work with a certain type of Philistine fan, of whom I realise I am one. As my chemistry teacher used to say, if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the precipitate....

    Alex S

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  8. While I agree with you in theory about the need to create better covers to actually sell their product, I've too long been divorced from the idea that I had to care what the cover had to say.

    "Covers always lie" is the saying, and after years of generic pin up cover and art of too great a difference in skill level from the interior- (the cover art can be either greater or worse than the interior art) I've long since tuned out the books covers.

    Oh, hey, you've got a variant there? Don't care! What's the story?? And while we're at it- who's the REAL artist?

    Once those questions are answered, the cover can disappear for all I care.

    I guess the question becomes: are these covers just there because they know they don't matter to me anymore (though I've already mentioned that the poor covers are the egg that produced my apathetic chicken) or do they actually help sell books?!? Am I just that removed from the mind set of the lowest common denominator that I can't see the marketing brilliance of these covers- a worrying thought if I ever had to approve a cover of anything for sale.

    As for the content of those two Flashpoint books, as far as the Flashpoint titles go (a pretty low standard) they're pretty good. The actual interior art for Reverse Flash was great to me, the expressions of Zoom were interesting from moment to moment- he's a character that doesn't often move beyond gleeful evil, but you'd never know it as judged by the many faces in this book. It was a joy to look at, but the story was a waste, containing no new information beyond what we could infer from the knowledge that "Reverse Flash Torments Barry Allen in the Past"- something we were told over a year ago!

    Kid Flash had the reverse problem, story was okay (well, for a Flashpoint book, and with better characterization for Bart Allen than he's recieved in years... and if this is all I'm going to get, then I'll defend and hold to the writer as Bart's last defence against whoever Kid Flash becomes come september) but the art was pretty bad.

    Well, that's enough out of me, I've got to go read your article on comic book resources!

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  9. Hello Alex, you *!$- precipitate you!!!!!

    You're right, there's a great deal that's appealling about the Reverse-Flash cover, and I'm pleased that my use of the word 'integrity' came across in the sincere fashion that I intended it to. I had no intention of being snarky.

    Yet perhaps I might suggest that the effects which appealled to you could be incorporated into any more, shall we say, formally correct design. Distortion when there's no anatomy is all surface. But there's no reason why the exaggeration and obsession can't be added to something of substance. There are artists who have constantly succeeded in responding to change, including novelty, by adding such innovation to their foundations. I hesitate to suggest a name here because it might sound as if I'm suggesting they're trend-chasing, but that's not what I mean.

    So, perhaps we might in the middle. Such effects can be invigorating, but in the absence of the fundamentals, that's all they all; effect.

    Or; less hyper-hatching, more life-drawing, perhaps?

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  10. You could have titled this post: "Mort Weisinger Was Right". Ah well.

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  11. You're quite right as usual guv, it pays to know the rules before bending or breaking or elaborating on them. And cropping figures at the knee IS daft.

    Talking of feet and of comic covers that have an oblique relationship to comic contents, I remember a few years ago I couldn't decide whether the cover at http://www.comics.org/issue/363196/cover/4/ was genius or just very silly.

    Alex S

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  12. Hello Isaac:- One of the absolutely essential aspects of blogging, and I’m sure that you’ve found this too, is how it reminds a blogger over and over again that the things which they feel are self-evident are anything but. And so I read your comment and I think “Gosh. Isaac and I agree disagree about some key things there. I’d better make sure I’m not mistaking my opinions for facts.

    And so, I do think that the cover is a profoundly important thing. I think it’s important in terms of design, important in terms of selling the book, and important in that it tells us something of how determined a company is to actually SELL their books rather than rely on a captive audience. Oh, but I do know exactly what you mean about poor covers – variants, pin-ups and so – destroying one’s faith in the very idea of the cover in the first place. But a beautiful and functional cover is to me part of the whole experience of buying a monthly. (And I’m paying for it too!) I can’t imagine Daredevil # 130 without that fantastic cover, or the Amazing Spider-Man Annual # 1 or whatever.

    Actually, re-reading your comment, I can see that we didn’t disagree all that much, although I’ve no objection if we do :) I certainly agree that the Reverse Flash art was interesting and involving, just as I’ll agree that the story was terrible, an absolute waste of time. Everything was just a checklist of plot-points. I thought Kid Flash was better, but it struck me as about 10 pages of story spun out and spun out again. That’s been for me a major problem with FP. There just doesn’t seem to be much story between the covers.

    But now I’m wondering when I last saw a brilliant cover, and, since I can’t recall, whether covers really ARE that important. Thanks for nudging me towards a re-think.

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  13. Hello Solo500:- Ah, Uncle Mort was right about a good many things. Wrong about a great deal else, of course, and, for what it's worth, an apparently less-than-splendid bloke. Yet much of what he learned and put into practise surely is being ignored.

    Not exactly come back Uncle Mort, therefore, but at least Come Back Uncle Mort's knowledge :)

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  14. Hello Alex:- I've been staring at that green foot and I think I know a great deal of what you felt looking at it. For me, the composition doesn't work, though I can't for the life of me say why. The scale looks wrong, though of course Hulk-chap has very big sides of meet. And it feels like there's too much stillness and negative space, especially off to the right of the composition.

    But I have a terrible feeling I might be very wrong. And it IS a compelling image, isn't it?

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  15. I think you should label your artwork commentaries with an additional "art" tag, so that we can find them more easily. They're some of my favorite posts on your site!

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  16. Hello BP:- well, bless you for the thought, and thank you for the kind words. I do enjoy trying to make sense of art myself, and not because I know anything, but because I don't; I always learn something, even if it's simply more of how little I know. I'll add that tag when I've a moment in the very near future. Cheers for the nudge :)

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  17. Glad to help. Your articles are generally about more than just reviewing particular issues or series; they're about addressing the underlying themes and/or trends, whether that be art, or narrative, or metaphysics (e.g., your wonderful Spectre post), etc. But your labels don't always reflect the complexity of your ideas. Right now, as I look at the label list next to this text box, I see the Rs and Ss, and I notice lots of titles, characters, and creators. But in terms of thematic labels, I see only Sexism and Superheroic Transvestism.

    I think you could show off a bit more by creating an additional set of labels that reflects *your* themes. I, for one, am more likely to search your site for your posts on artwork or narrative than for your posts on Kid Flash or Jim Aparo.

    Keep up the good work!

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  18. Hello BP:- rest assured that you very much have got me thinking about adding some extra tags. And it's actually quite an interesting thought, to go back and see what it is that I've ended up writing. You're right that I avoid straight discussions of anything, really; there's so many folks who can do that far better than I can. I always thought my 'job' was to try to find things that were less often discussed. Starting a comics blog in 2010 felt like I was gatecrashing a party that'd done exceptionally well in my absence, as OF COURSE it had. Like an sensible gatecrasher, I thought I'd better stay out of the limelight and attend to anything other than charging the centre of attention. And I quickly found I liked it out here on the margins too ...

    But, as you so rightly say, the characters discussed don't often reflect the topics being approached, I'll be getting my head down over the next week or so. But sadly I don't think I'll ever find a second post to attach "donosaur poop" to; that WOULD be an achievement of tagging ....

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  19. Hello Colin,

    It took me a while, but I finally figured out what the Kid Flash cover was missing. Wolverine!

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  20. Hello Brian:- that's a frightening thought. So generic is the figure that sideburns, an appropriate costume and claws sticking out of the knuckles could be added to it and - voila! - that IS Wolverine :)

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  21. It's a little late in the game to respond, but I think we really do agree more than it sounded about cover art.

    They certainly USED to be something I'd get excited about, more so if the cover was done by the interior artist, as I feel that adds a legitimacy to it- as do people outside the general comic buyers populace. A buddy of mine once told me "yeah, I picked up this comic because it had a cool cover, but there was a different artist inside and it was terrible! That's false advertising!"

    Uh, it's been a bunch of years since that was said, so don't quote me exactly, but the idea has stuck with me.

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  22. Wow, Colin, I used to quite like that Kid Flash: Lost cover ;)

    Actually, I still do. I look at it and see urgency, intensity. I like the colours. I don't have an art background so any errors in composition and execution don't catch my eye, don't keep me staring at the horror rather than opening the book and seeing what's happening with Bart.

    So much as the cover did evoke anything other than a subliminal 'interesting image', the figure of Bart immediately reminded me of his Flash #92 debut:

    http://www.comics.org/issue/55331/cover/4/

    I assumed a deliberate homage, though there's no acknowledgement of same.

    And the lightning bolt inset box, which I love, reminded me of the cover treatment for Mark Waid's initial multi-parter on the Flash, detailing his origin:

    http://www.comics.org/issue/51215/cover/4/

    I'm probably just stunted in my appreciation of decent comic art!

    As for the Professor Zoom book, again, it's fine by me. I know speedsters have feet, I don't need to see them in every panel. Zoom's full of rage and madness, he's rushing out at us having undone his enemies. It may not be technically magnificent, but there's a real intensity there that gets me in the gut. It may seem faked to you, but as you say, it works for some.

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  23. Hello Isaac:- you raise a fine point which I hadn't considered before, which is that it's hard to suggest returning to a previous era when that previous era was so often a thoroughly dodgy proposition. It's no surprise that folks stopped caring about covers when, as you say, they so often short-changed the reader.

    A new era of covers, then. Free from the misleading covers, free from the stereotypical pin-up posing.

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  24. Hello Mart:- there's nothing more valuable than running straight into - this is a Flash post! - into an honest disagreement. Of course one of the things which I so appreciate about your blog is how differently we see the world. I'll often nip across to your reviews when I've read a comic just to make sure that I'm being exposed to a contrary view. By which I don't mean that we always disagree, but just to say that we have such different tastes.

    I wouldn't dream of challenging what you've written above. I had my say and I'm chuffed you've put such an elegant tackle in. What I most appreciate is how disarmingly you marshall your evidence. It just emphasises once again the key point; it's opinion, and what feels like an absolutely compelling to X can be matched by Y.

    Thanks for putting not A case, but THE case for the defence. The prosecution has already rested. Can we shake on it?

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