Wednesday, 19 September 2012

From Asgard As A Strip-Joint To The Phantom Judas; A Selection Of The Most Misjudged Fresh Starts For Superheroes:

In which the blogger offers up a baker's dozen's worth of ill-judged attempts to significantly reinvigorate best-left-as-they-were comic-book characters. The list isn't in order of any preference, and its contents reflect nothing more considered than the first thirteen examples which came to mind while brain-storming on the back of an envelope in a library coffee shop.

As always, your nominations for those dubious efforts which should've been included would be extremely welcome;

1. Yellowjacket And The Wasp, by Roy Thomas, John Buscema et al (1968)

The two-issue introduction of Yellowjacket in Avengers #59 & 60 makes so little sense that it would've been right at home in many of today's line-leading Event books. None of the Avengers appear to be anything other than intellectually disadvantaged as Henry Pym accidentally poisons himself into super-heroic schizophrenia and sets about the marrying of Janet Van Dyne. If it helped establish Pym as a superhero with a propensity for absurd mental disorders, it also lumbered Van Dyne with the reputation of a woman so obsessed with marrying her man that she'd trap him at the alter while he was quite literally out of his mind. Those who still mock the DC product of the mid-Sixties for its fundamental silliness ought to take another look at what Marvel was churning out in the period. Nobody comes out of the Sixties too well when it comes to common sense, but at least the creators of Yellowjacket had the watertight excuses that (1) there's was work aimed at children, and (2) it was at least as well crafted as it was ridiculous.
         
2. "Grounded" Superman, by J. M. Straczynski et al (2010)

At the time the lamentable "Grounded" appeared, I thought it so inexplicably awful a comic that I tried to create a context that might make sense of its events. It was, it seems, more than Mr Straczynski ever did. The story of a Superman so disillusioned and confused that he feels compelled to walk across America while ignoring all of his various public and private responsibilities, it perfectly fuses nonsensical plots and cloth-eared scripting. A run so irredeemably poor is at least there in print for us to cherish as an example of how not to write the Man Of Steel, and as such,  it's to be regretted that JMS was either, according to his own statements, (1) too ill, or (2) too disappointed by DC Editorial's long term plans to finish off the unmitigated disaster he'd so incompetently set into motion.
             
3. Armoured Daredevil, by D. G. Chister, Scott McDaniels et al (1993)

A relatively harmless - and short lived - example of a poorly conceived reboot, and one that was at least undertaken with enthusiasm along with a fair measure of intelligence and skill. The problem with an armoured Daredevil is - of course - that the very idea undercuts the premise that Matt Murdock is a "man without fear", destroying as it does the air of bravado and even foolhardiness which informs many of the character's best moments. Yes, armour would make a great deal of sense for a modern-era, street-fighting superhero, but a Daredevil who isn't daring enough to fight crime in his tights really isn't Daredevil at all.

4. Phantom "Judas Iscariot" Stranger, by Dan DiDio, Brett Anderson, et al (2012)

The new Phantom Stranger's a reboot so fundamentally ill-judged that it's almost impossible to raise the energy to criticise it. (You might start here with a fair-minded discussion, if you've not come across the conversation before.) There are, of course, superhero comics which have used Christianity in a respectful and even enthralling fashion, such as John Ostrander achieved with the wonderfully heroic figure of priest Richard Craemer in his Spectre stories. But to use a living religion in the sub-genre in this way requires not just a sincere regard, which DiDio's script undoubtedly reflects, but sensitivity, subtlety and the highest level of craft too. The superhero comic has had a regretable tendency to portray Christianity as a deviant if not actively corrupt business, but casting Judas as the Phantom Starnger - with cod-significant dialogue that even Charlton Heston would struggle with - is not in any way part of the answer.
        
5. Penance, the child of a great many parents amongst Marvel's employees of the era, including Paul Jenkins & Ramon Bachs (2007)

But if the new Phantom Stranger has one redeeming feature, it's that it's not quite as dumb an idea as the lamentable Penance. As woefully po-faced and deeply, deeply meaningful as the Phantom Judas, Penance was even worse. In the hands of Pat Mills and Kevin O'Neill, this generation-hyperangst dunderhead would have been played as satire of grim'n'gritty comics. But Marvel either chose not to do that, or played the whole business so straight that nobody picked up on the gag. As a result, it was nothing other than bewildering to watch Steve Ditko's Archie-esque Speedball degenerating into the perpetually disordered, self-lacerating, self-pity consumed Penance. If not a joke at the expense of overly-literal, humourless fan-culture, then Penance was a sorry expression of the same. In short, a terribly idea poorly executed,  and there was so much of it all too.
        
6. The New 52 Wonder Woman by Brian Azzarello et al (2011)

There's little if anything I could add to what I wrote here about Mr Azzarello's recasting of the Amazons as naked canoeing, sex-hunting, male-murdering monsters, though I'd like to vent a touch more if there was anything new to say. It's a matter which can still cause the steam to start billowing out from under my collar...

7. Psychopathic Guardian-Killing, Corps-Slaughtering Hal "Green Lantern" Jordan, by Ron Marz et al (1994)
  
The history of the super-hero comicbook since the mid-Eighties has been in many ways the history of stupid-minded revisionism which has at the very least been rubber-stamped by editors that really ought to know better. That a bad day at the office for Hal Jordan should have resulted in his being transformed into a mass muderer made no sense at all, but it did result in a serious sales boost for the moribund Green Lantern title. That such a rise in the number of readers might have been achieved in a way that didn't involve a hollow parade of ridiculous, boy-thrilling murders obviously wasn't accepted in the halls of DC at the time. In the constant quest for short-term commercial advantage, the industry has succeeded only in alienating all but the most Rumpish of fans, and created an audience which just isn't interested in any Big Two super-book which isn't in some way an expression of Event marketing. There's a long way from the everything-you-know-is-wrong reworking of The Anatomy Lesson to the foolish, flaccid spectacularisms of Emerald Twilight, but it's the latter model rather than the former which has predominated over the past almost 30 years. In that context, it's worth remembering - as it's often not - that Geoff  John's successful rebooting of the GLC in 2004 approached the mutilated franchise with care and respect. I may find the book and its fellows largely unreadable today, but its rebooting was a well-considered affair.
           
8.  The Sexing Up Of Asgard in the Thor issues by J. M. Straczynski et al (2007)

The unmitigated sexism of JMS's Thor reboot was discussed here. What a despicable and thoroughly offensive business it was. Yet it's worth celebrating what Marvel has achieved in recent years with the pathetically blokeish, pornographised Asgard of JMS and his co-conspirators. I've been waiting for the end of Kieron Gillen's run on Journey Into Mystery to discuss the matter, but just as a place-holder, three rousing huzzahs for everyone involved in moving women to the centre of Asgard's affairs and elbowing all that adolescent titillation as they did.
   
9. The Legion Of Super-Heroes Without Superboy, reluctantly undertaken by Paul Levitz & Greg LaRocque (1987)

Comics history tells us that the quasi-fundamentalist zeal of those who reboot shared universes never results in success for anything more than a fraction of the properties involved. So it was for the re-ordering of DC's mutiverse following Crisis On Infinite Earths in 1986. No title suffered more than the Legion Of Super-Heroes, which was gutted of its connection to the Superman mythos and thereby separated from a great deal of its appeal and purpose. With the property fundamentally undermined, if not actually fatally weakened, the Legion has had to be kick-started time and time again, and none of the various efforts could be said to have worked as well as the pre-Crisis versions. Picking and choosing from a variety of takes on characters and situations and combining them into this week's 31st century has simply created an alienating mish-mash of third, fourth and fifth generation versions of once-familiar characters. With the passing of time, the fact that the Legion as well as Superboy were pictured in the sunset on the above cover seems regrettably telling.

10. First Wave by Brian Azzarello et al (2010)

It's possible that the few later additions to DC's First Wave line after Mr Azzarello's introductory issues were much better than his lead-off issues, but I doubt many folks made it through the main course to the deserts. First Wave certainly seemed like an intriguing premise at first, featuring as it did a cast of Pulp and World War Two-era properties, from Doc Savage to the Blackhawks, from a gun-wielding Batman to the Spirit and the Avenger. Yet despite a host of largely able and even gifted creators and a clearly worked-through process of world-building, Azzarello's tales were heartless noir trifles. To read his First Wave was to feel mired in largely humourless unthrillers, all laddly grimness and utterly predictable storytelling. What was the point of all that preparatory work, of all that effort, when the stories themselves had nothing at all to say beyond the growling and brawling of alpha males?
11. Spider-Man: One More Day, by J Michael Straczynski, Joe Quesada et al (2007)

Speaking as one of those who'd always thought the marriage between Peter Parker and Mary-Jane Watson had been a fundamentally bad idea, I'd no objection to the idea of the couple splitting up at all. After all, if the two of them could forget that they'd once had a child, then they could easily stumble out of each other's lives too. The question was, how well would the deed be done, and sadly, as I think most everyone would agree, it was a hubristiclaly incompetent example of how not to write or illustrate a modern-era comic book.
      
12. Before Watchmen, by a host of folks who really shouldn't have, no thank you (2012)

Before Watchmen: an obvious ethical transgression, a few pretty drawings, a couple of barely-mediocre comic books, and a range of absolute stinkers. Regardless of what DC and certain quarters of the industry would have us believe, no-one's coming out well from Before Watchmen except for the folks who didn't take the silver and the company book-keepers who offered it in the first place.
           
13. Teen Tony Iron Man by Marvel Editorial, Andy Lanning, et al (1996)

Not only thick-headed, but craven too, Teen Tony Stark remains perhaps the best example of an industry locked into a cycle of forever chasing what it presumes to be its audience while damning both sense and integrity. With the passing of time, Teen Tony's also a fantastically funny idea, as are of course all the comics associated with the wretched The Crossing, which remains the worst major crossover Event that any American publisher has ever conspired to produce that I can think of. The Marvel of the period couldn't have satirised the Big Two's habit of perpertually shooting themselves in the foot better if it'd've set out to do so.

What other options came to the blogger's mind afterwards? The post-Gerber Howard The Duck, the Mark Millar Robo-Hunter, the New 52's Suicide Squad, the 60's Human Torch series ... There's no shortage of candidates for this particular ballot, I fear.

And, should you have a moment, why not visit TooBusyThinking's Tumblr? For cod-philosophy and choice comic book panels, there's nothing this side of Phantom Judas to beat it.

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55 comments:

  1. ....see now I just want to read that Borges story about Judas Iscariot again.

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    1. Hello Emmet:- Yes, Three Versions Of Judas is indeed an interesting short story. But what good comicbooks has Borges ever written?

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    2. A fine question. I would ask what comics has the master inspired, in which case I'd put forward the latest series of Xombi, which is simply stunning.

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    3. Hello Emmet:- You've mentioned Xombi before, I fear, and I also fear that I've never got round to checking it out. But I'll go now and see if I can pick up a few copies of the last series on EBay. If you say "stunning", then I'm going to eventually show the atom of common sense which allows me to listen and act.

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    4. Cities built from the skeletal remains of Niphilim floating above the Earth in secret.....I think you'll enjoy it.

      John Rozum and Frazer Irving were a dream team.

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    5. Hello Emmet:- And it's expensive to get hold of too. I couldn't find an affordable copy of #1 this morning, but I'll keep looking. You make it sound utterly beguiling. Once again, I seem to have missed the party.

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    6. @Colin: A quick check shows that Amazon still has copies of the recent John Rozum/Frazier Irving "Xombi" trades at under $12...

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    7. Hello Lurkerwithout:- Thank you! An affordable copy of the trade is now heading my way. (I just thought a series that was so quickly cancelled would only be available as back issues.)

      You're an egg :)

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  2. I think I'm mandated to invoke Archie's the Shadow. As I discovered, it wasn't simply the visual transformation of the Shadow into a spandex-wearing hero which ruined the series, but the dashed-off plotting, art and scripting.

    Despite being a major fan of Gruenwald's work, armoured Captain America was an utter eyesore, even though it was justified in-story.

    Someone must surely mention one-armed impotent druggie Arsenal; it may as well be me.

    The original "Spider-Man is broken forever!" story would be the Clone Saga, although it's begun to be reassessed through the lenses of nostalgia. There must be hope for One More Day nostalgia!

    Not that pre-OMD Spider-Man had been so terrific; have we so quickly forgotten: "Did you really get radioactive powers from the spider bite... or was the spider magical?" Oh, how we mocked it on the internet back in '00: "Did you really get your powers from the Super-Soldier Serum... or was the hypodermic needle magical?"

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    1. Hello Michael;- As a keen reader of your blog entries about the Archie Shadow, I thought it was only fair to leave that disaster to, forgive me, one who knows.

      I have a great fondness for Mark Gruenwald's work even when I can't always get to grips with it myself. I'm hoping there'll be a great thick Omnibus or two featuring his run one day.

      Oh, of course; Cry-Justice-Arsenal!!!!! Now it's unforgiveable that I forget that. It was a candidate for the very worst comic of all time, and my belief was always that a regime that could produce that shouldn't be trusted with any more fundamental tasks.

      The Clone Saga was during my sojourn away from Marvel, when only the Avengers really caught my eye. Since that led to The Crossing, I'd have been better to walk away entirely. Funny how so many of the folks who made comics unreadable in the 90s are now producing comics which are little different from those which almost sunk the industry. And on the whole, they don't seem to be selling too many books now either.

      The JMS spider-totem idea was always a daft one. I was quite taken by aspects of the beginning of his run. But as it continued ....

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  3. Hi Colin - long time reader, first time commenter here! I'd like to nominate the post-Utopia X-Men for inclusion on your list: formerly a franchise that had been largely defined and shaped by a prep-school setting that had done much to distinguish it from its team book peers, the current X-titles bear little relation to its '60s origins, never mind the Claremont-Byrne salad days. The missteps taken with this title in the last few years range from inexplicably writing out the foundational Professor X and having a bloodthirsty and humorless Cyclops lead the charge, to suffusing the title with a veritable cast of thousands all fighting in vain for space and page time. In a way, the X-Men of today seems like an unwanted call-back to the bad old days of the '90s, when paramilitary antics and sturm und drang plotting was the order of the day. For every halfway clever idea (such as having Namor join the team), there seemed to be three times as many story and momentum-killing plotlines that sapped whatever vitality the characters seemed to have left ("Messiah Complex," anyone?).

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    1. Hello Anthony;- it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance. It's good to - as it were - meet you.

      I must admit, you've got a good case with Utopia. I came in late to the whole process and found myself blogging with a great deal of distaste about what I found. I won't repeat those points here, but I certainly wouldn't disagree with your points.

      What saved that period in the X-Books from the above list was the way in which it was brought to an end. I thought that the work by Aaron and Gillen over the past few years has often been very good indeed, and there were books where I could believe that the whole franchise was righting itself, and doing so in an admirable way. Or at least I could when the likes of Greg Land were missing ...

      But your basic argument, I find myself agreeing with. Messiah Complex, as you imply, was just pants, and often offensive pants too ....

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  4. Yeah, that Phantom Stranger #0 was pretty bad.

    I'm not highly critical of genre fiction, and I'm generally more tolerant of adventure picto-fiction - witness my praise for Silk Spectre when other critics are barely able to begrudgingly admit it approaches mediocrity - than many readers, but Phantom Stranger #0 was bloody awful. How is it that nobody involved spoke up in the early stages and said: "Hey, guys? THIS SUCKS!!!"

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    1. Hello Hoosier X:- The New 52 experiment has not worked, I fear, and any gains that have been made in readership could've been matched and exceeded - I believe - with product which reflected higher standards of storytelling. Yes, DC's books contain some fine examples of work. But most of the New 52 is piffle, as I re-discovered when working through a pile of recent "O" issues.

      And although the likes of Team 7 and - is it?- Ravagers are simply terrible, they lack that certain cack-handedness which marks out the Phantom Judas, the sort of pap-filled indulgence which seems to rely on a centrality to continuity in order to get by with the Rump.

      Perhaps it will. I doubt it.

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  5. I find it interesting that three of your 13 choices involved the same writer.

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    1. Hello Rob:- There are 2 writers who make three different appearances in the above chart. I didn't intent to make a statement about any particular individuals. But I suppose that if I dislike one piece of work by a particular, it stands to reason that I'm more likely to dislike another.

      Still, I do - as is obvious - keep reading on in the hope that I'll come across work that I think is worth cheering about, though in both gentlemen's cases, my hopes have worn - on a purely subjective level - rather thin :-(

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  6. Great list, Colin! Painful memories, but a great and well-researched list.

    Teen Tony also has the dubious distinction of being a near-total nick of the Hal Jordan/Kyle Rayner switchover, only seven times the length and one tenth the comprehensibility.

    It is a bad idea made exponentially worse by imitation.

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    1. Hello Kazekage: Thank you. I wish I could claim that the above was well-researched, but the truth is that these were the things which came to mind first. There were a few other options flying around in my head, but the above drowned out their virtues, or rather vices.

      I'd not considered Teen Tony as a shadow of Kyle Rayner, who I will admit to a findness for, especially as written by Grant Morrison. I'd have to re-read the relevant adventures starring each character to see if I agree, and I think I'd much rather trust to your good judgment! I couldn't face either The Crossing or Emerald Twilight again ....

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    2. If you're counting Azzarello's third placement in your list as one of the Before Watchmen collaborators among the amount of times he appears on the list, then that means JMS has appeared FOUR times on your list. Give credit where credit is due! I'm sure that Azzarello is more than gracious enough to sure the dubious honor with JMS as a BW collaborator. ;)

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    3. It was pretty much that--I think it happened maybe a couple years after (I was a regular Iron man reader at the time--after many years of being utter dreck, Len Kaminski had made it great again) and his last issue tried mightily (and failed) to set up the status quo that Old Stark was going mental, which subsequent issues seemed to change their minds about the finer details of it (was he always evil, or having blackouts, or--?) and 16 issues later, a younger, snottier Tony Stark shows up and for the next six or seven issues, really nothing of consequence is done that couldn't be done with another character.

      I've had the unenviable task at times of explaining that with certain Marvel characters, "Heroes Reborn" was a good thing, in that it was slightly less worse than they'd been doing.

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    4. Hello Joe:- You're right! I hadn't noticed that a third of these books were by JMS. Gosh. It wasn't a deliberate business at all. I didn't even think of his name where One More Day was concerned at first, for example, though I can't explain why.

      I guess I've not been a fan of his work for a while now. I can think of stuff I still respect. Episodes and aspects of Babylon 5, some of the early Spider-Man stuff, the early issues of Midnight Nation. I'm very curious about The Twelve, given how much I admire Chris Weston.

      But I can't say I'm a fan these days.

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    5. Hello Kazekage:- I have a great deal of respect for Len Kaminski. A under-rated creator, if my memory is at all to be trusted, though I've re-read nothing of his work in a good while and I note nothing of his in the marketplace these days.

      You've made me laugh out loud with the quite logical argument that the wretched Heroes Reborn was in fact better than a great deal of what went before, with the notable exception of Peter David's Hulk of course. What an idea.

      But then, I suppose Teen Tony is a better idea than Cry For Justice Arsenal. There's always something worse to make work look less inept, or at least there is until you get to Cry To Justice Arsenal.

      Which I missed out from my list, darn it!

      How odd that DC should apparently be keen to produce most of a line of comics which have as little value as the worst corporate books of the 90s. There are times when it seems noting changes.

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    6. Your blank where JMS/OMD is concerned might be attributable to the belief widely expressed online at the time that it was more a product of Joe Quesada's "Jim'll Fix It" approach to the concept of Spider-Man.

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    7. Hello Emmet:- It does seem that failure tends to be somebody else's fault, while success is always down to JMS. A healthy artistic ego, perhaps.

      Still, I'll also track down an affordable copy of the collected 12. Perhaps that'll give me the chance to cheer his work, though Chris Westn was able to even make Mark Millar's mid-90s 2000ad scripts seem interesting.

      I've never been convinced by JQ's powers of plotting/scripting. A question of taste, no doubt, and that actually extends to his art. I did, however, admire his stewardship of the company from 2000 to 2005. But for me, as I suspect for you too, Jim Did Not Fix Spider-Man.

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  7. You've caught all the big fish already! I'll add a few more, but none of them reach the nadir of Penance and many of the others you've listed.

    Two more from the Legion: years before Hal Jordan went crazy, Brainiac Five inexplicably became crazy, framing Ultra Boy for murder and creating a creature called Omega to destroy the universe. Unconvincing.

    There was a lot of reinvention during the big fresh start of the Five Years Later stories (which you've written about here before). Much of the reinventions were fun and charming: These for me include a gently reformed Lightning Lord, a street-wise Ultra Boy (whose dim jock portrayal in the Levitz years was retconned to have been an act), a hilarious take on Matter-Eater Lad, a tough, war-scarred Shrinking Violet and her relationship with Lightning Lass, fun and zaftig Dream Girl--and many more. I was even okay with the notion that resurrected Lightning Lad has been Proty II all along. But the one that didn't work for me was the revelation that Shvaughn Erin was actually Sean Erin, transformed by 30th-century medicine to a woman. I marveled at the audacity of it and accepted the argument that, you know, it was feasible. But in the end it felt like a gimmick. I stuck with the series, though.

    And speaking of Green Lantern, the hoops DC made poor original GL Alan Scott jump through in the 80s-90s were ridiculous. They de-aged him, took his ring, redid the costume, named him Sentinel, and made my head hurt.

    And my list couldn't be complete without mentioning the multiple reinventions of Hawkman that followed the Hawkworld series.

    That's off the top of my head--I look forward to reading others' comments. Great topic.

    -Mikesensei

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    1. Hello Mike:- I guess the biggest of the big fish kind of catch themselves, don't they? I doubt there's many folks who wouldn't have gone for One More Day, for example, simply because it was an improbably daft-mined idea which was extremely poorly executed.

      I agree with you about that Brainiac 5 arc, which I remember as having something to do with Jim Starlin. Similarly, memory tells me that the conclusion of that plot saw Matter Eating Lad sink into madness after eating the Miracle Machine, a collision of Silver Age camp and Bronze Age melodrama that left both traditions looking foolish without any compensating charm appearing on the page.

      I'm torn about the Shvaughn/Sean story. I loved its ethics, was touched by its characterisation, enjoyed a great deal of the tale as a story in its own right. And yet, as you say, it did feel as if it had come entirely out of the blue, which made the content of the tale rather than the tale itself the source of attention. And in that, yes, it did feel awkward. If the tale had been more effectively seeded, or if it had been followed up, then that problem might not have existed. I do like and appreciate the story, but even as such, I can't disagree with your concerns.

      And you're right, the Alan Scott reframes were consistently pants. Memory tells me that he was being redesigned every second week. DC have always had a terrible problem with heroes who are anything older than 27, and there was a stupid-minded ageism about those attempts to make Scott anything other than a very old man. You'd think the presence of old characters in all the big fantasy novels which attract young readers as well as old would reassure comics that it's really OK to have more than a universe composed of kids. But then comes the New 52 ....

      Gosh, you're shaming me! The Hawkman catastrophes should have been in the above. I can't disagree. The screwup which resulted in Hawkworld not being used as Tim Truman intended sent the character in a downward spiral which its never recovered from. And then the New 52 .... What a shame, since Hawkworld may be the finest story ever told about the character.

      Good calls, Mike. I marvel at my inability to remember the things I should. Thanks for being around and adding the above :)

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  8. There isn't enough bile in the world that can be spewed in the direction of The Crossing.

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    1. Hello Comicsfan:- Here's how bad my memory for the 90s super-book is, or rather, how much repression has occured with my memory of the period. I actually invested some book tokens and birthday money in the Omnibus edition of The Crossing. I thought it would be fun to read, and I was also convinced that it couldn't be as bad as I remembered. (The Avengers has always been a favourite title of mine, although that fondness has been pretty much wiped away these days.)

      Truth is, The Crossing is far, far worse than I remembered. It's just terrible. More fool me.

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  9. Hmm, the switchover from Goliath to Yellowjacket happened a bit before I started collecting comics regularly and all the other "fresh starts" took place after I mostly quit reading comics. The Yellowjacket story is rather curious -- has Roy Thomas ever talked about what prompted him to take that route with Hank Pym? Did he figure that Clint would make for a more fun Goliath and this was just part of Roy's masterplan to get there? The cover is, of course, misleading but very apt metaphorically -- the Yellowjacket persona really did kill off this version of Goliath. I vaguely recall reading that Pym eventually took on the Goliath identity again in recent years, but as far as I'm concerned the Marvel Universe of the last 20 or so years is so different from even the Bronze Age era that I grew up with as to be essentially a different make-believe reality.

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    1. Hello Fred:- I'm a huge fan of Roy Thomas' work, and I think his importance in the sub-genre is often seriously under-estimated. More than that, the quality of some of his work is regularly forgotten, which is both a shame and unfair. The Yellowjacket business suffers a great deal because of the fact that the issue looks like a later book, and yet it reads like an early-Silver Age one. It has that powerful John Buscema art, there's a great deal of knowing vigor about the tale, and yet it's really part of the previous era's traditions. It's easy to read it and feel that it's poorly done when it's really quite in keeping with the time. Because it looks and feels like it comes from a later time, it gets judged according to criteria which don't quite apply. By which I mean, yes, I've pointed at the story as a really poor one, and yet I worry that I've contributed to a process by which RT becomes that Avengers writer who's only discussed when Pym's problems come up. You're not saying anything unfair about the man, of course. But I really must try to express my admiration for his work more.

      I don't know why RT chose to shake up the Avengers in the way he did. The whole package seems like an enthusiastic miscalculation now. Goliath was never the fit for Clint that Hawkeye is. It was a daring and radical business, and I must admit, I like Yellowjacket when Hank's not being shown as a crazy guy in the costume. And I have an incredible fondness for that period. As a lad, those issues were gold-dust in terms of rarity and content. There's a very good case for saying Thomas' run on the Avengers is the finest that the property has known. In fact, I struggle to find anything that might challenge that, for all my teenage self's adoration of the Englehart issues.

      I must keep my eye out for material on those Avengers issues in my old Alter Ego issues as I work through them later this month. I'd like to know the answers to your questions too :)

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  10. Oh god, Penance... it was amazing how quickly even Marvel wanted us to forget about that particular character.

    While I'm pretty sure that the most hated moment in Straczynski's Spider Man will always be "One More Day," let us not forget the magical stupidity that was "The Other," aka "Spider-Man has stinger claws now for some reason!" The whole Spider-Totem was bizarre enough, but that was just amazingly stupid.

    Oh, and lets not forget his... interesting reboot of Wonder Woman.

    I would usually feel bad for a writer's reputation taking such a big hit as JMS's has in the last decade, but... the work really speaks for itself doesn't it? It's one thing if he had just consistantly made baffling decisions. It's another thing, if you'll forgive a crude image, to essentially walk onto every book he's taken over by swinging his dick around and shouting "mine's bigger and I KNOW BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ABOUT EVERYTHING!" It's another thing again to have the companies you work for put great time and effort into promoting your works, and then abandon them midstream with a series of contradictory excuses that basically add up to a statement of "eh, bored now" (I'm talking about "Supreme Power" in this case even more than I am "Grounded" and "Wonder Woman"). But when you combine the two of those things together... and it really doesn't matter whether or not you created "Babylon 5" anymore.



    And I see another commenter already mentioned cat-wielding junkie Arsenal, but some things can't be criticized too many times. When I first heard people talking about that series, I honestly thought they were joking and refused to believe them when they told me they weren't. It was literally the moment when material that would have been the perfect over-the-top parody of grim n' gritty excess was actually, honestly written as something that we were supposed to take seriously. Truly a watershed moment.

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    1. Hello Adam:- You recall Marvel trying to bury Penance, and I recall how long they persevered with it. I always thought the beginning of Civil War was a stupid waste of good characters in the name of a one-off sensationalist kick-off, and to find that the New Warriors had been killed off for a headline in the fan press and Penance ... it is to laugh, but not with any kindness.

      JMS's interesting reboot of Wonder Woman was indeed a candidate for the above, but for all that it was wearisome, it lacked that essential arrogance and stupidity which marked Grounded!

      And of course you've reminded of the incredibly poorly-written catastrophe that was Earth One Superman, which I really should have added to the above. Perhaps because I blogged about it so much a year or so ago, I've put that example of pap right out of my mind.

      And that makes me feels uncomfortable. Surely one writer can't be responsible for so much poor work? By which I mean, I fear a regrettable bias here, and I will pull out some of these books again and see if I'm not just being unfair. I have a horrible feeling I might be. I'd not, as I said in a reply above, noticed how many JMS contributions there were in the above until I was adding creator's names before posting. Oh dear. I fear I may have a big Mea Culpa coming up ....

      Or not. His public pronouncements certainly don't help his case, though there are folks who can say the most objectionable stuff and it doesn't mean that I struggle with their work. Yet I can't deny that JMS does seem to present a spectacularly self-centered, self-regarding view of himself in public.

      As for Cry For Justice: Arsenal; well, I'm ashamed of myself. That may well be the worst comic book of any kind anywhere. I know "worst" can have a host of meanings, I know it's an entirely subjective matter.

      But that version of Arsenal was such a thick business.

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  11. Hello Colin, what a wonderfully wise list (and thanks for the plug, a nice surprise)! I might feel for Teen Tony, as an attempt to come back after Evil Kang Puppet Tony, but given it was the same Marvel Editorial, with one crime immediately following another, it's double boos for them.

    Did you even read the demon/angel Marvel Knights Punisher? From streetfighter to angelic pawn in one fell swoop. Bonkers.

    Joe Casey, in one of his Avengers mini-series, did an amazing job of trying to explain the Hank/Jan nonsense. It's still mad, but much more interesting.

    Ever read the post-Mark Gruenwald, pre-Chris Claremont Spider-Woman, in which Michael Fleisher sucked all the magic out of Jessica Drew's world, and gave her wig a haircut?

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    1. Hello Martn:- Thank you! And no problemo with the link. I thought your review was the fairest I came across on the net. I'd nt have been so calm, but then, that's why I thought any curious visitors ought to have the option of starting at your place first. I hope a few folks made the journey.

      The Marvel Knights Punisher was ALMOST in the list, but I never persevered from the first issue and I didn't even keep a copy. As such, I thought I'd be being unfair to damn it with so little data and no chance to renew my acquaintance with it. Mind you, it was rank nonsense, if my memory serves at all.

      The first Joe Casey Earth's Mightiest Heroes did indeed work hard to make the Yellowjacket work. Sadly, the nonsense it introduced to explain away the origin's nonsense made it a futile, if entertaining business. If the Avengers knew Hank was mad, then the place for him was in care.

      I have a vague memory as a lad who would buy ANYTHING of the Fleisher Spider-Woman. I wouldn't buy it. A brilliant writer of Jonah Hex and The Spectre, he never to my mind managed to create anything else that wasn't pants. His 2000AD work was rubbish.

      But then, that doesn't diminish his Hex tales. Some of them were just sublime.

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  12. '. Surely one writer can't be responsible for so much poor work? By which I mean, I fear a regrettable bias here, and I will pull out some of these books again and see if I'm not just being unfair.'

    You're not being unfair, JMS has produced half-runs of mind-bogglingly arrogant tosh. Don't waste your time re-reading any of these books.

    I do like The Twelve, though.

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    1. Hello Martin:- If YOU'RE saying that about those books, then they're even WORSE than I remember them. I'm fighting, I really am, not to just in to my own taste and just accepting that I think he's a comics career that's nearly 100% pants.

      After all, he did write Earth One Superman. And the Gwen-sleeps-with-the-Green-Goblin story.

      and, and, and ...

      Does nobody edit this bloke?

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    2. >Does nobody edit this bloke?

      During his time at Marvel... not exactly, no. He had protection from editorial as per his contract, which played a part in his public outbursts regarding the changes made over his head to One More Day and the attempt to force his Thor into a line-wide crossover.

      But to balance things out, the Twelve is okay. Weston's art is to die for.

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    3. Hello Michael:- That's incredible! His contract meant that he wasn't, as it you put it, exactly edited. The industry never fails to shock me. I wonder who else is pretty much free from such "interference"?

      But, yes, that was rhetorical. And I think it's pretty clear who gets to escape the editorial red pen these days.

      Ah, Chris Weston's art is always to die for. There's a single panel of his from the 1999 JSA Returns crossover which I'm posting on the TooBusy Tumblr in a few weeks. It's exquisite, just exquisite ...

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    4. Actually Sins Past was "edited"... If I recall, JMS wanted the story to be about Gwen actually secretly having Peter's children. Then Joe Quesada felt that would age the character, and suggested that the children should be Gwen and Norman's instead.

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  13. Only the Yellowjacket and LSH stories came from my real superhero phase. I loved the Yellowjacket story and thought it was absolutely bonkers, I'm sure it inspired an Eastenders plot or two. I followed LSH right up until their little clone saga, which has a surprising amount in common with Bendis Secret Invasion storyline, and then lost the will to continue. I thought the five years later stories were great until the clone problem came up. As to grounded, I didn't think, reading the collected edition, that it was that foul. Mediocre but so nuch is.

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    1. Hello Peter:- Sometimes my life is full of the sense of cognitive dissonance. I've just been finishing my next Q column, and it's been one dealing with a number of FANTASTIC comics, none of which arfe superhero books. And then it's back here and I'm kicked off a discussion of ill-judged re-starts. I'm not meaning to disrespect the sub-genre. I love it, but with the usual, laudable exceptions, it's in terrible shape. "My" superhero phase has never ended, but I struggle to name too many periods when there were more than a few books every month worth investigating.

      I think the Yellowjacket story suffers for me because the art isn't bonkers enough. If it'd be the Kirby or Ditko of the 61/64ish period, the art would've been so crowded and kinetic and eye-catching that the daftness would've gone down more easily. But John Buscema's art was so calm and beautiful that it actually accentuated the silliness of it all.

      I thought the clone Legion was a really good idea, and that's especially since they were going to be the originals. A grand way to reboot a profoundly troubled franchise, with the best of both worlds kept around. But I don't think the story was well dealt with from that point onwards, and all that promise meandered off into under-achievement and another reboot, and another ...

      Still, what I ought to do is a list celebrating the best run of each character. Just to avoid seeming to be entirely negative.

      Why not?

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  14. Hey Colin!

    Thanks for this, I really enjoyed it! That Yellowjacket story is so close to my heart for the sheer goofiness of every single thing that is happening. To this day Hank Pym is one of my favourite characters since he manages to do something completely nuts every now and then. It also one of the stories that established my extreme dislike of the Wasp as a character. This combined with her constant pointless annoying prattling really irked me. That and the fact that a part of Hank's instability was based on her behaviour! The phenomenon known elsewhere as 'crap on Yellowjacket' really is based here and makes me like the character even more.

    Joe Casey did a mini-series that delved into this period called Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes that was quite enjoyable as well, giving a background to Hank's instability and making it seem a little more plausable. Which is a good and bad thing, I love the idea of him inhaling gases that caused it, but then the Marvel Universe is supposed to be 'realistic' which is something I also enjoy.

    The character Penance has always enraged me as such a clear example of how cruel writers and by extension their characters - "heroes" can be. Deciding someone clearly suffering Post Traumatic stress to the point of self harm should be put on a team of villains run by NORMAN OSBORN rather then maybe, therapy? The compassionate thing, that's what they did. Reed Richards saved Galactus' life, the least they could do for Speedball is get him some psychological help (which eventually happens once Warren Ellis got a chance).

    As for Teen Tony, well I've never read the comics but the sheer thought of the words "Make Tony Stark evil and replace him with his teenage self" simultaneously makes me giggle for five whole minutes and repulses me. I may have to find those comics.

    You know, of all the comics on your list that I've read (which is about two thirds), the Yellowjacket storyline is the only one that strikes me as an enjoyable story that I'd want to read again.

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    1. Hello Ejaz:- Thank you. I tend to jump to Janet Van Dyne's defense when she's blamed for Hank's problems, and yet that Yellowjacket story does blow any attempt to do so right out of the water, doesn't it? I've not heard of the term COY before. It does, however, make perfect sense ...

      The Joe Casey story was a noble attempt to sort the matter of Hank's collapse and marriage, though as I think I alluded to above, not a convincing one. But one of the things I noted when blogging the Pym pieces for Sequart is the fact that Pym's forever experimenting on himself with gases and pills. There's a scene in the 2-part Giant-Man/Whirlwind tale where Hank's guzzling down a new potion to increase his speed and reflexes as well as his size. I'm astonished that the man isn't dead, or entirely and irreversibly insane given how he abused substances during that period.

      I agree with you about Penance and his tale from beginning to end. A clusterfuck of such proportions that it would read as perfect satire if it wasn't for the apparent sincerity of all involved.

      Or so it seems.

      Teen Tony is a FANTASTICALLY terrible idea. And the irony is, of course, that unTeen Tony Stark is now recognisable to hundreds of millions of movie watchers worldwide. It was always obvious that unTeen Tony was the way to go, but in their mixture of desperation, arrogance and thick-headedness, the bean-counters who drive comics were sure that Teen TS was a fine idea. I feel sorry for the good professionals who have to go alone with this rubbish in order to pay the morgage and secure health insurance.

      I get your point about the Yellowjacket tale being the only one worth enthusiastically re-reading. I think the Legion is respectful and well-told, if dull and obviously the result of a very dumb editorial idea indeed. The rest aren't just bad ideas, they're bad ideas told poorly.

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  15. Hi Colin,

    Personally for me the really goofy stuff from the 60's and early 70's Marvel really gives me a kick. Yellowjacket's birth is probably the epitome of it all for me (with the flip of realism and drama in True Marvel Style would probably be the death of Gwen Stacy). For me, Dan Slott has done some great work with Hank, incorporating the fact that he has always been experimenting on himself (and those he loves) and he can be obssessive and a little weird (Ants, really?), thise are the things I like about him. He's what I would consider a True Marvel Character - incredibly flawed, a bit odd, but trying to be better. He should probably get out of the Superhero game for his own mental health but - it's comics folks!

    I have to say JMS's Superman is comedy gold, especially because it's clearly unintentional. It's almost Randian in it's morality. That's the joke. Of all the characters to espouse those kinds of beliefs, of course Superman's first on the list. The way he's so completely self-absorbed (and a self-regarding, pompous moron judging by his dialogue), why he's never out sacrificing himself for others.

    As for One More Day, I only dip in and out of Spider-Man but how can I resist such an idiotic story. A deal with the devil. That must have taken all of 3 seconds to come up with.

    You should check out Atop the Fourth Wall at blip.tv. A guy called Linkara reviews terrible comics and does a real number on both of JMS's stinkers, not to mention further hilarious reviews of Frank Miller's recent output. The reviews themselves are extremely funny while also being in depth critiques of the stories from construction, logic and continuity standpoints. You might enjoy some of them. He also finds some horrendous comics that I would never have even heard of - Superman at Earth's End? Not every day you get to see a comic like that.

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    1. Hello Ejaz:- The odd thing about The Death Of Gwen Stacey is how angry fans were about it all in the day, and now, it's an acknowledged classic story. Quite unfairly, the rest of Gerry Conway's run tends to be ignored, and some folks are very sniffy about it indeed. I think that it's an impressive sequence of issue, and the drop-off in quality between his last issue and the subsequent few years on the book is marked. His gifts didn't disappear when Gwen died, though those who later came across some of his DC work might have thought so.

      JMS's Superman as comedy? I can't get past the hubris of its creator. I can't laugh at or with him, so I struggle to engage with the work even on an ironic level. I just find myself starting to steam and I push it away.

      But you must read One More Day in detail. It's the perfect reminder that the pressence of power and fame tells us nothing about the quality of work that those involved might produce.

      I shall go track down Atop The Fourth Wall. It sounds terrific. It's been a long, if not uncomfortable or unpleasant day. I could do with a larf .... :)

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  16. Howsabout Dr. Fate being turned to "Fate," the ankh-tatooed, knife-wielding, EXTREME!!! version of the character?

    There's also post-Miller Elektra, a character with little function far-removed from the intriguing anti-hero of the early-'80s.

    Jeph Loeb has a lot to answer for, including single-handedly destroying the Ultimate Universe in Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum. I read the latter at the library and couldn't believe it was ever approved by any human being, let alone published.

    The worst Batman story of all time is probably War Games (or some similar title), in which beloved character Stephanie Brown screws up royally and longtime beacon of compassion Leslie Thompkins lets her die to teach Batman a lesson.

    At least we'll always have (most of) the good stuff outlasting (most of) the bad.

    - Mike Loughlin

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    1. Hello Mike:- With all due respect to everyone else, you seem to have won. Every single example you quote is deserving of nothing beyond appearing on such a list. That I remembered none of them when making my list compounds my failure to remember Cry For Justice Arsenal.

      I've only once been convinced that the post-Miller Elektra had any reason to exist beyond shifting units to fanboys, and that was Mark Millar and JRJR's use of her in his first Wolverine run. But even that could've seen the character replaced by someone else. Better off dead, I say, or at least secretely alive on some snowy ledge where Miller left her.

      Jeph Loeb's work on the Ultimate Universe is impossible to speak about with anything except scorn, with the exception of the teen mutant book he turned out with Art Adamas a few years ago. That was merely moronic and dull.

      But the whole business of Leslie Thompkins effectively being a vindictive murderer.

      It's hard to understand how so many duds have ended up in the industry, isn't it?

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  17. Hard to top this list, or even some of the other suggestions in the comments (Ultimatum and Arsenal, especially), but I'd like to suggest New 52 Static: the move to New York and emphasis on shock storytelling (the severed arm, which fixed itself the very next issue, for example) turned a great Milestone character into a dull DC one.

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    1. Hello Andrew:- An unfairly ignored-by-me comic, I must admit. The New 52 Static was so thick-headed a book that it's hard to grasp why I missed it off the list. As an example of doing just about everything wrong, it's outstanding.

      The mind boggles. How is it possible to get something so wrong. Mediocrity is understandable, everyone underachieves, but Static is something else ...

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  18. The Turok and Magnus Robot Fighter were pretty damn awful re-boots. Especially in comparison to the execellency of the originals. Compared to modern day comics, I guess they'd stand out as exemplary.

    I could list a billion books here. Recent examples would be all of the 52:s as well as the entire Marvel Now line. Even though I have to admit I'm so stoked about seeing Giffen's art again that I bought the OMAC trade, even though it can't live up to the brilliance of Kirby's all too short run.

    Suicide Squad managed to appall me, frankly. And I'm a guy who normally gets off on torture and snuff and all that stuff. Just not in a superhero book. Please.

    "Nobody comes out of the Sixties too well when it comes to common sense, but at least the creators of Yellowjacket had the watertight excuses that (1) there's was work aimed at children, and (2) it was at least as well crafted as it was ridiculous."

    Absolutely! I don't care that books that were crammed out at a ridiculous speed 50 years ago, aimed for children (and whomever might appreciate all the adult stuff they sneaked into it) make no sense. That's almost a part of their charm. That they are so focused on bringing you fresh entertaining stuff that they throw common sense out the window. That's the thing that I like about genre media. That's what made US action movies from the 80's or Hong Kong Cat III or sci-fi/adventure flicks of the late 80's/early 90's so ridiculously fun to watch.

    But they also managed to be adept at their craft, FFS!!!!

    You know, I didn't so much mind the re-working of Speedball. I thought it made sense in Civil War to have the most innocent character in the MU be destroyed by Marvel's analogy of the Patriot Act. I also liked the BDSM and the cutting fetishistic nature of his self-loathing, but that's just right up my alley. But yes, it's pretty jarring when looking at the fantastic, if way too short, Ditko-run. Wish we'd see that one collected soon. It's brilliant.

    Speaking of religion, I find it hilarious every time chistians whine about having their religion cheapened when they nearly wiped out the Asatro in Scandinavia by burning down our temples and murdering the believers. I still wish for a Thor comic when our protagonist will actually behave properly, track down Jhesus or Ghod and pound the living daylights out of them. Personally I consider religion as something akin to masshysteria or insanity, so I don't think it should be shown any more respect than any other fairy tale that's fair game to adapt. A 100 years ago, when religion was the equivalent of a person's entire world-view and understanding of reality, sure, that was more or less the respect for that person's freedom of thought. Today? No way.

    I'm REALLY looking forward to your book, Colin. I had no idea you were writing one and now that I know, I'm a bit jealous actually. It's something I would have love to do if English had been my native tongue.

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    1. Hello CJ:- I knew nothing of the originals of Turok and Magnus Robot Fighter, so the latter in particular seemed OK to me. (I’ve always had a weakness for Ernie Colon’s art.) But several folks I really admire, including your good self, have spoken well of each book’s first run, and especially so where Turok’s involved. I’m still waiting for the readies to afford a Turok collection.

      There are, as I think we’ve discussed, some rather splendid New 52 books. But not that many of them. Oh, dear .. I can only agree about Suicide Squad, amongst many others. (I love the idea that even a writer of horror who sees the point of exploring such conventions finds it poor stuff.)
      You make an interesting point about genre movies that I never really got before. As with those Sixties comics, so with the films you mention. Dedicated to entertainment, informed by terrific craftsmanship, lacking often in sense; for me, the most enjoyable art has the first two and adds the sense too.

      If you’re speaking well of Penance, then I’m going to have to reconsider my POV …

      I can certainly understand how you can see Christianity in that way! There’s few ideologies, religious or not, which can’t be judged on their sins, and judged in that context severely and fairly too. My problem with the use of Christianity in the superbook is that it’s dumbheaded where the matter of how religion informs individual’s lives is concerned. I know far, far more Christians who are socially radical, kind and inclusive than I know gay rights denying, evolution-denying, West-Taliban extremists. In fact, I’ve barely met a handful of the latter in my lifetime, and even then, their number included folks who achieved remarkable things within the community. By which I mean, the Christianity which did for the paganism of the East Of England where I live doesn’t inform very much of the Christianity which operates here now – of course – and yet comics so often only seem to present Christians in the context of the likes of Claremont’s God Loves, Man Kills. Now, I’m very much not a Christian and I’ve got serious, serious problems with organised religion; but I just can’t get behind the idea that the members of any religion can be dealt with so ineptly and unfairly. I just wish a great many comics were smarter and fairer-minded. By which I mean, you don’t have to respect a religion to represent its members in a way that reflects reality for good as well as ill. And that means both good and ill, of course. As it is, the superbook seems to deal with neither.

      Believe me, I’m as lacking in religiosity as it’s possible to be. And I've loved the likes of O'Neill and Mills' Nemesis and the way that Christian Imperialism was nailed there. But I could do with more than that ... And that goes for Paganism as much as anything else. There's so little curioisity in the super-book, I guess, which is odd, given how the subject-matter of those books is often so potentially interesting.

      Thanks for saying that about the ebook, which will only be a collection of essays, some new, some reworked. (There’s another book on the way, but that’s been a long time cooking and it’ll be a long time yet.) I’m fascinated by the process, but I can’t say that it seems real to me in any way. It’s all very odd :)

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  19. Brian Azzarello really has an appetite for destruction, doesn't he? He wrecked Doc Savage in much the same way that he's wrecking Wonder Woman.

    And bringing up Before Watchmen, the absolute nadir of that series so far was Before Comedian #1. Azzarello has Jacqueline Kennedy ordering a hit on Marilyn Monroe. The Comedian not only fulfils the contract by overdosing Monroe on drugs, but the book goes on to suggest that he rapes the dying and unconscious actress in the process.

    I actually bought a copy. Donated it to the Kennedy Presidential Library, with a note directed to Caroline Kennedy. I owed it to my country. I dislike Brian Azzarello with an intensity I've never mustered for any other creator, and I am resolved not to buy comics from any publisher willing to print his material.

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    1. Hello SteveGus;- I do find myself worrying about the presence of so many BA and JMS books in the above. I have no vendetta against either men - how deeply sad would that be? - and I was merely representing my own taste honestly. Yet in doing so, I do seem to be having a go at the man rather than his work. In truth, I've read a few collections of 100 Bullets and found them enjoyable if not compelling. But I really do struggle with his work. The Comedian issue you refer to was remarkably ... ill-judged, as have the Wonder Woman issues.

      I'll pick up the first issue of any new project of his in the hope that I'll be able to throw my hat in the air with joy. I tend to do that with writers whose work I've struggled with for whatever reason. It makes me feel less as if I'm running a campaign of comics-rant. Yet I totally understand your stance, I really do, and that's particularly so given what a squalid business Wonder Woman in the Amazons-kill-sperm-doners issue, and I certainly think the very idea of sending a copy of the Comedian to the KPL is a brilliant one.

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  20. My Phantom Stranger has potential pasts the way that ordinary people have potential futures, but his destiny is set in stone, like our past. If he was indeed Judas Iscariot in a possible past, he was all 'Three Versions of Judas' by Borges. Have you read that story?

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    1. Hello Yamandu:- Many years ago, many years ago, and when Emmet mentioned the same story in the above, all I could remember was the Cliff Notes summary version. I have since gone back and renewed my acquaintance. The very idea of going back to the old school thick-headed version of Judas in the New 52- as it seems has happened - seems so ... archaic.

      However, I was always fond of the old DC take on the Stranger circa '88 or so, when an issue of Secret Origins produced 4 quite different origin tales. None of them was given precedence over the other, and the implication was that the Stranger was whoever the reader wanted to believe. What mattered was his wish to help others.

      But Judas? And Judas the VERY BAD MAN?

      Honestly ...

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