Wednesday, 5 September 2012

Killer Robots! Giant Cross-Dressing Robots! Sweet Nurturing Almost-Robots!; The Wednesday List No 5

In which the blogger takes the theme of robots from yesterday's post about Lee and Kirby's X-Men and their enemies The Sentinels - find it here - and offers up a baker's dozen of artificial life-forms -  or largely artificial life-forms -  to serve as a momentary distraction from your day. Reader beware, the following is both saturated with the blogger's digressions and marked by several significant spoilers;

1. The Cylons, as seen in Roger McKenzie & Ernie Colon's Battlestar Galactica #2, 1979, Marvel, and #5 by McKenzie, Walt Simonson & Klaus Jansen

Ernie Colon only worked on Marvel's Battlestar Galactica for a single Treasury edition, which was then adapted for the first three issues of the subsequent monthly series. It's a shame, because Colon's European-evoking style worked wonders in places with the photo-reference the studio had provided. In particular, his Cylons remain far more impressive than anything seen of them in the series itself.
Fans of Walt Simonson's work sometimes seem to overlook his two separate runs on Battlestar, and yet there's some lovely work there. The wonderful evocation of Lucifer in the above panel, for one, shows Simonson and Jansen making something sinister out of a character who often seems anything but on the TV screen. The last few issues of the title featured Simonson on both script and pencils, which resulted in a genuinely entertaining run of adventures with some tellingly Kirby-esque moments.
2. Robotman by Grant Morrison & Richard Case, from The Doom Patrol, volumes 1 & 6, DC Comics, 1987-1993

Two scenes starring Cliff Steele and Crazy Jane in the rain, one from the very first of Morrison and Case's Doom Patrol issues - #19, 1989 - and one from the very last - #66, 1993. While other creators might choose to focus disproportionately upon the "Robot" part of Steele's identity, Morrison knew to concentrate on how the character's fundamental humanity remained even in the absence of anything of his body. There's rarely if ever been a more convincing and moving relationship in the super-book than that between Jane and Cliff.
Mind you, James Robinson & Paul Smith's take on Robert Crane, the Golden-Age Robotman, in their wonderful "Golden Age" does focus on exactly the opposite process, and it does so brilliantly well too. The long-term consequences of the loss of his body causes Crane to chillingly degenerate into a murdering fascist blackshirt in the service of a thoroughly unexpected master villain. "Golden Age" is a tremendously under-rated book, and an Absolute edition would surely be its due.
  
3. The Super-Adaptoid by Roy Thomas & Werner Roth's The X-Men #29, 1967, Marvel

There's no accounting for how a kid can be frightened of a daft idea if they come across it when they're young and susceptible enough. I thought the Super-Adaptoid a terrifying character when I was still short of my eighth birthday. Now of course, he looks like a camp classic, though some slight traces of that deliciously childish, quick-behind-the-sofa fear remains. (I adore the way in which the creature has absorbed Hawkeye's pokey eye-mask and a WWII take on Captain America's shield. Who'd design a creature that would steal elements of a super-heroes' costume as well as their abilities and hardware? And why didn't it just hunt down the likes of Thor and the Hulk and duplicate a far more significant level of power? Still, it was an endearingly odd thing, spending its life chin-stroking in an under-ground cave when it could have been out absorbing the world-shattering capabilities of premier division super-people.)
          
4. Charlie The Pilot Robot Of Northpool, by Pat Mills & Dave Gibbons from Ro-Busters, 2000AD #98/9, 1979

It's hard to choose a single robot from the cast of  "Ro-Busters", but for all I adore the likes of Ro-Jaws, there's never been anything like Mills and Gibbons' tale of how robot Charlie bravely won the gratitude of the citizens of Northpool. By the time the creators showed the crowd singing "You'll never walk alone" ... well, eyes do have a tendency to moisten.

5. Computo, by Jerry Seigel, Curt Swan & George Klein, from The Legion Of Super-Heroes, Adventure Comics, 340/1, 1966

Computo looked almost as unconvincing in 1966 as it does now, and yet juxtaposed with that was fact that this ridiculous creature was shown doing some explicitly unsettling - and even quite terrible - things. In the above cover, for example, one of Triplicate Girl's bodies is shown being executed in a remarkably unambiguous fashion. To show a death of a character in such a direct way was just one of the gruesome aspects of the two-part tale, which also included scenes of human beings being turned into data processing units for Computo and his robot fellows. This was kids' comics with a darker edge, and its worth noting that the same year's Sentinels tale in the X-Men featured nothing so disturbing. Marvel was often far ahead of the curve, but in this case, it was Seigel, Superman's co-creator, and the perennially under-rated Swan who were pushing the envelope just a tiny fraction in the direction of the uneasy.

6. Robot Acid Archie by Grant Morrison & Steve Yeowell, from Zenith Phase III, 2000AD, 1989, as well as from Lion, 1966

The fact that legal problems are still preventing the reprinting of Morrison and Yeowell's masterpiece is of no little regret. Though I picked up the Titan collections in the day, it feels wrong that only a relatively small number of folks should have access to this material. Phase III of Zenith in particular is one of the finest super-book tales ever told, and the appearance there-in of a blissed-out Robot Archie, an E-casualty of the Second Summer Of Love, is only one of many joys that the tale offers. To those folks in 1989 who'd grown up with a far more staid version of good old Archie, the idea of his robot mind having been irreversibly blown by an already-redundant youth cult was all too playful to be able to resist. There were, the cultural histories tell us, alot of hard men who found their more violent sides rewired - at least temporarily - by the specific excesses of the period. Who'd have thought that Archie was one of them?
And here's the pre-E Archie, in a page by George Cowan from the "Lion" of 13/8/66, as reproduced in Gravett & Stanbury's "Great British Comics", which, for whatever it's worth,  I'd highly recommend.
   
7. Atomic Robo by Brian Clevinger, Scott Wegener et al (2007 onwards, Red 5 Press)

I'm a late-comer to the cult of Atomic Robo, but all those kind commentators who recommended the character and his adventures were - as of course they'll know - quite right.
    
8. The Vision, as created by Roy Thomas and John Buscema, from Avengers #102, by Thomas, Rich Buckler & Joe Sinnott, and Avengers #96, by Thomas, Neal Adams & Tom Palmer

What's often forgotten today is the status which the Vision held where the readers of Marvel comics prior to the arrival of the likes of the Punisher and Wolverine were concerned. A regular favourite where polls were concerned, the Vision was - in the context of the ime - an intense, pitiable and often disturbing character. The decision to gradually turn him into a well-balanced, sunny-minded suburban house-husband was a brave one, but it killed the appeal of the character almost stone dead. Subsequent revivals have rarely touched upon the traits which made the first incarnation of the character so appealing, although Kurt Busiek and George Perez did succeed in showing how The Vision might still be a major player in their post-Millenium Avengers run.
I've already posted a detail of this on the TooBusyThinking Tumblr - here - but it's such a dramatic, and thoroughly disturbing, scene. Anyone who parrots the folk-myth that super-hero comics only became bleak and perturbing with the arrival of the likes of Frank Castle and Logan ought to look again at the above sequence from the Kree/Skrull War.
         
9. General Jumbo's Radio-Controlled Mechanical Troops from The Beano

Both the above images, which I believe were drawn by Paddy Brennan, have been appropriated from the Beano's own site
From the last ever General Jumbo story in the original run, with art by Sandy Calder, from the Beano 11/10.75, as reproduced in The History Of The Beano, editor Christopher Riches, 1975.
     
 10. Astro Boy by Osamu Tezuka, 1952.

As reproduced in Paul Gravett's "Manga: Sixty Years Of Japanese Comics", whose books have been more than hepful for this blogger.
        
11. Cross-Dressing Trev, from Rob Williams & D'Israeli's Low Life: Hostile Takeover, 2000AD, 2010-11

D'Israeli's site has a lovely post - here - on the topic of this particular cross-dressing giant robot. I'd highly recommend that you leap over there immediately.
Low-Life: Hostile Takeover was reprinted in Mega City Undercover: Living The Low Life volume 2, Rebellion, 2012. Q gave it a four star review earlier this year, you know...
Of course, "Cross-Dressing Trev! He is all woman!" is perhaps the single greatest expression of praise ever uttered to a robot in the history of comics. Three cheers for writer Rob Williams, then ...
         
12. The Sentinels, by (a) Roy Thomas & Neal Adams, X-Men #58, 1969, (b) X-Men #142, by Chris  Claremont, John Byrne & Terry Austin, 1981, (c) New X-Men #114, by Grant Morrison & Frank Quitely, 2001 & (d) Avengers #102, by Thomas, Rich Buckler & Joe Sinnott, 1972,

Until they were over-used to the point that every house in the Marvel Universe had its own guard Sentinel, Doctor Trask's creations were some of the most intimidating protagonists to be found in the super-book. In the Adam's page above, the artist succeeds in suggesting just how massive the Sentinels are, and accentuates their power without ever having to fall back upon grimaces and dramatic poses. These are implacable, irresistible machines, and it's quite frankly hard to believe that the Angel ever survived this moment.
The two-issue comic book which launched a thousand wretched "homages"; the benighted future, the triumphant protagonists, the brave and very dead future super-heroes. Though much of what now passes for the super-book can be traced to a poor understanding of the work of the class of 1986 - Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns - the Days Of The Future Past tale remains one of the sub-genre's most influential and ill-thieved-from texts. (That it did so while bearing a title lifted from a Moody Blues' prog-rock concept album is, to those of us who remember the culture wars of the 70s & 80s, still a shocking business.)

From the afore-mentioned Avengers #102, in a time when a single Sentinel could face down an entire team of Avengers - including Thor and Iron Man - and do whatever it wanted to without even being slowed down.
        
13. Awesome Andy, once but no longer the Mad Thinker's Android, by Dan Slott et al, in She-Hulk (2004-7)

By San Slott, Paul Pelletier & Rick Magyar, from "She-Hulk" #12, 2005
Written by Dan Slott & Ty Templeton, art by Rick Burchett & Cliff Rathburn, "She-Hulk" #20, 2007
As time passes, Slott's run on She-Hulk in the first decades of the 00s becomes more and more impressive and missed. Even if he'd done nothing more than re-cast the Mad Thinker's Android as the entirely adorable Awesome Andy, Slott's work on this title would've been worth treasuring. That the collected editions of the run are now out of print is surely a crime. Perhaps an Omnibus edition is on the way, as it really should be. (By Dan Slott, Juan Bobilla, Marcela Sosa, "She-Hulk" #5, 2005
As always, your suggestions for the artificial, or largely artificial, life-forms which I've not referenced would be warmly welcomed. I picked the first 13 names I brainstormed, but I did go on to add another two dozen examples before giving up  when I realised that the original and modern-era Machine Man, the Sentry and the Miller/Simonson Robocop/Terminator tales had all been remembered too late to make the cut ....

But because I shamefully can't resist it, and because I can break my own rules since there's obviously no-one around, and who could care?

14. The Daleks, from TV21, 1965-66

From TV21#48, December 1965
From TV21#38, October 1965
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37 comments:

  1. It's hard to beat Kirby's robots:

    Machine Man
    Ten-For
    The 4th Sleeper
    Elektro
    The Kree Sentries

    ...Really, any of Kirby's robots. Destructon, Indestructible, Crusher, Servo-Guards, Ruler of Earth, etc.

    Also, the Metal Men, the Human Robot (Agents of Atlas) and all of Mendell Stromm's weird robots. Perhaps Metallo, going by your lax rules.

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    1. Hello Michael:- You're a hard man, Mr Hoskin "Lax rules" indeed. I couldn't have a list of robots without Robotman, and that immediately blew everything that's, er, unlax out of the water. (However, I've spoken to the committee that I put all these choices before and they say Metallo would be a step too far!!)

      You're quite right about every single one of your choices. There were so many Kirby designs. I've always been particularly fond of the Sentries, and have always regretted the fact that Marvel have progressively made them less and less formidable. Yet with the Sentinels already being on the list, I thought I ought to look elsewhere. A Baker's dozen of Kirby robots would be a fun thing, although I know you'd be far better at compiling that than I would.

      I regret not having Tin from the Metal Men in, and the Human Robot is a fun character. If I keep the blog and the Wednesday Lists going, I'm sure they'll be room for less lax lists in which such characters can appear. I say that with not a hint of side intended. For example, I can see an opportunity for a cyborg's list a-coming, which could include the Daleks and Robotman, but none of the others. Metallo would fit there, or at least the version I'm most familiar with, though its the original Deathlok that I'm thinking of.

      Ah, lists. The great thing is, they're fun and they don't matter at all. Huzzah!

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  2. Puckett - ‏@puckett101 on Twitter - said;

    @Colin_TBTAMC Glad you liked @DanSlott's run on She-Hulk. My gf and I LOVE that book - she loves it so much that she has She-Hulk sleepwear. Oh, and also glad you liked Atomic Robo. Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, I think it's the best comic on the market.

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  3. the3rdwall ‏- @the3rdwall on Twitter - said;

    @Colin_TBTAMC Only other thing I can think of is Machine Man, especially Ellis' but Kirby's too.

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  4. In the fictional account of Flex Mentallo's publication history Lars Lotus, Flex's archnemesis, saddened to find that his exotic actress girlfriend Kirby Kosmos is actually a shocking pink mentallium-transformed Flex, builds a robot universe populated by beautiful robot ladies. I love the Mentallium Man's design. Also, all the police/robber/civilian robots from Abelard Snazz. Shame the robots themselves can't contribute. They can't pass the Captcha test.

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    1. Hello Yamandu:- It's been so long since I read Flex Mentallo. One of the weekend, I suspect, if I can stumble upon the originals. (The colouring of the 2012 reprint really doesn't appeal.)

      Ah, Abelard Snazz. Now there's two words to set off a wave of nostalgia. Good call.

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    2. The originals may be hard to stumble across. I only know of them thru rare scans, suchas the Dr.Seuss coloured Mentallium Man.
      I think taking the reprint outof the library may be worthwhile, evenif you do find the originals. Its been said that they are different stories that are word for word identical, a cool concept that is similar to changing a movie's genre by changing the soundtrack. To see both sidebyside could be a learning experience.
      The new one does have some very beautiful colours, such as the Hoaxers illusion.
      My ideal Flex would be a cut & paste Frankenmentallo, with some panels from each.

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    3. Hello Yamandu:- "My ideal Flex would be a cut & paste Frankenmentallo, with some panels from each." That's a lovely idea. Perhaps there'll be the tech one day to produce a constantly changing FM, so that the interaction between the two versions is constantly in flux.

      And that's a lovely point about the relationship of the soundtrack/colouring to the meaning of a text ...

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  5. Another awesome list, Colin.

    As ridiculous a thought it is to have "male" and "female" robots and to accidentally program what is supposed to be a female program into a male body, it really is a great metaphor for gender dysphoria. And yes, "Cross-dressing Trev! He's all woman!" is pretty great.

    And if you enjoy Astro Boy and Naoki Urasawa, you'll most definitely enjoy Urasawa's take on Astro Boy in the series "Pluto."

    I'm a little surprised you didn't mention the poor put-upon lisping robot, Walter. I can see how he'd get annoying, but he really isn;t given enough credit for his bravery or loyalty. Then there's the ABC Warriors. I've been meaning to get more of their collections.

    I thought Seychelle from Fraction and the Ba twins' "Casanova" was a fun character.

    The fuchikoma/tachikoma robots from "Ghost in the Shell" are fun little characters. They're quite perky and upbeat despite being combat support droids for the counter-terrorist squad Section 6. They've got a limited range of self-awareness and see humans as they see themselves, like when one saw a human react to another human's death it wondered, "Gee, if he's broken, why not just fix him?"

    The Eva's from "Neon Genesis Evangelion" don't seem to fit your list exactly, as they aren't quite autonomous and need to be piloted, but in some cases, they can go berserk and run autonomously because of their secret origin.

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    1. Hello Joe:- You're the second person to heartily recommend Pluto to me in the past 12 hours. I fear I'm still working my way through 20th Century Boys - though it's no chore - but Pluto looks like being next.

      Cross-Dressing Trev. The very idea makes me smile on a cold morning. I may just take up lapel-button making instead of anything else just to have a "Cross Dressing Trev. He's all woman" badge of my own.

      I mentioned Walter in a list a few weeks ago - the unrequited love one. If not for that, he'd be in the above. And there's several of the ABC Warriors that I could've added in addition to Charlie, their most endearing guest star.

      Ghost In The Sheel and Neon Genesis Evangelion; both things I've still to check out, to my shame. No worry about not being precise. I've got cyborgs, robots, radio-controlled toys; as Mark says above, I have got somewhat lax here.

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  6. I just have to chime in to say how nice it is to find someone else who appreciates Marvel's Battlestar Galactica. Personally, I found the entire series, and Simonson's contributions in particular, thoroughly enjoyable - generally of a much higher quality than Marvel's much longer-lasting Star Wars series. It's a pity that Simonson's run as writer/artist was cut short by cancellation.
    Also, I completely agree with your view of Vision: I feel I'm a part of a tiny minority of Bronze Age fans who never really liked the Vision/Scarlet Witch marriage and the Vision's eventual 'domestication.' It seemed to make both characters less interesting somehow.

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    1. Hello Edo:- There was something of a terrific book developing when Simonson was given control of BG, wasn't there? Folks interested in Simonson's later and rightly acclaimed run on Thor would enjoy those BG issues, I believe. (And I'd agree with you that I found the BG tales to be on the whole more enjoyable than the Star Wars stories I caught. But then, I am of the heretical POV that BG is a great deal more enjoyable a property than Star Wars, though I'd never dare say so in public, of course.)

      I had no problem with the marriage to the Scarlet Witch per se, though I did with the way it was played out. I could have coped just fine with the two of them living in suburbia too. But the transformation in the Vision's personality was so complete that there was nothing left of the alienated, confused and yet fascinating and endearing character left. To have had the Vision's core personality stay the same while his circumstances shifted; that could've been very interesting indeed. To have someone that lost and conflicted living in white-picket-fence-land might have been a Gerber-esque business! But to turn him into a sit-com dad was ... a noble and interesting experiment which unfortunately unticked all the right boxes.

      And of course, he's struggled to maintain any kind of following for almost 30 years. A daft business, I fear ...

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    2. Colin, with reference to Vision/Scarlet Witch marriage, even before they made the move to the 'burbs (and I agree, Gerber would have been one of the few writers with the chops to make that idea work), I didn't like the way it played out. This was particularly true for Wanda, a mutant with these ill-defined and rather scary powers who also dabbles in the mystic arts, but who basically became a sort of second wheel to Vision, often used in stories as some kind of damsel in distress for the Vision to rescue and to set off his one of his 'uncharacteristic' emotional responses. Like I said, the marriage just made them both less interesting, but Scarlet Witch especially.

      By the way, I noticed we also share a fondness for The Golden Age - I really enjoy Elseworlds (and Elseworld-esque) stories, and GA is among my favorites.

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    3. Hello Edo:- You make a good point about Wanda, who did become more and more of a suburban housewife whose stories often lacked a compelling hook. Not that there's anything wrong with being a suburban housewife, that's not my point. I myself am, after all, a suburban househusband. But the situation wasn't dealt with in a way which would've played to Wanda's unique strengths. I do think that the marriage could have been a fascinating business. Sadly, the promise remained unfulfilled.

      No disagreement about The Golden Age. An absolutely terrific, and often chilling, alt-Earth tale. In my own no-one-'s-but-mine DC continuity, that book is canon.

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    4. What little I've read of Marvel's Battlestar Galactica comics didn't make an impression on me, but if the two of you are that fond of Simonson's work, you really owe it to yourselves to check out his Marvel Star Wars run. His "Last Jedi" story with Mike Barr (#49) is notable, but the series just grows stronger with time; the issues with Michelinie & Simonson eerily predicting plot elements from Return of the Jedi are a lot of fun (Simonson informed me stories like "the Tarkin" (SW#51-52) and "Plif!" (#55) were even more like ROTJ until Lucasfilm lodged "mysterious" objections) and the Shira Brie storyline (#61-63) explores ideas about Jedis the films never did (such as how their mental powers would frighten non-Force-wielding people and generate prejudice), plus threw in some in-joke references to Miller's Daredevil!

      Even after Simonson left, Michelinie wrote a few more good stories with Gene Day and Jo Duffy's run starts out very strong with Ron Frenz on art chores.

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    5. Hello Michael:- Now that is enticing. I'd long since stepped away from the Marvel Star Wars book by that point, which will - it seems, for I do trust your judgment - prove to have been yet another mistake.

      Memory tells me Dark Horse may have published collections of those issues. Excuse me, I must go and check them out ...

      (And thanks!)

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    6. Michael, I actually began reading Marvel's Star Wars regularly for that brief period that Simonson was doing the art (although as I recall, he was mainly doing layouts while the inker, Tom Palmer I think, did the finishes). Before that, I kind of avoided the series, mainly because I thought Infantino's art just did not suit Star Wars at all. Anyway, I agree with you that those were indeed very good stories. In fact, with the possible exception of that one-off issue by Goodwin and Golden (#38 I think), those were my favorite issues of the series - I liked them better than the movie adaptations.

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  7. CJ HÃ¥kansson6 September 2012 10:47

    What?!! Low Life vol 2 actually was released? I've been eagerly keeping it in my basket at Amazon UK for over a year, waiting for it to become available for delivery, only to find out that it is now unavailable. I thought it was cancelled! Argh! I LOVE Low Life!

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    1. Hello CJ:- Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Let's hope Rebellion/2000AD reprint it soon, or better yet, put out a collection of the Williams/D'Israeli stories, which I'm particularly fond of.

      Or a great thick Omnibus of all the Low-Life tales.

      But somehow, those tales SHOULD be readily available.

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  8. CJ HÃ¥kansson6 September 2012 11:06

    Re: The vision.

    Seriously, I think that making him into a married husband was pure genius. That just made him even creepier. Not to mention what it seemed to say about the mental stability of Scarlet Witch. What I do find regrettable is that they didn't go further with it. Had really creepy half-man, half-robtic kids. Made Vision become more and more into an eerie, creepy version of faux-humanity that was so painfully lacking, that it was made into a terrifying mirror of the suburban middle-class dream. I can so picture him sitting at home, all alone in a room with the door locked and the blinds down, practing how to smile. How to be a husband. How to understand sex. Then reverting back to the sunshine Vision everytime the show is on. Then we find the warehouse filled with dummies where he has been practicing human behaviour on. Would have made a pretty cool subplot. IF they dared go that way, WITHOUT turning him evil. Just showing the pain of disassociation.

    Okay. Yeah. I write horror so... uh... Okay, maybe that's perhaps not what they were going for.

    Byrne's slaughter of the character was the nail in the coffin for Vision, I believe. But that's what Byrne does. His specialty. Correcting all the 'mistakes' that had been done by other writers, before Marvel had the good taste of hiring his genius to write the characters the way it should have been done. So he could bring back the status quo of his childhood and force it upon everyone else. No matter what.

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    1. Hello CJ:- You had me at the words "the pain of disassociation". There's a Camus line which applies, I think; Nobody realises that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal. As such, the scenes you suggest would very much carry the challenges faced by those who struggle to fit in with the folks around them. I would have happily bought into such a narrative, as long as Wanda had been given a similarly compelling role beyond being his human anchor.

      The John Byrne "slaughter" as you call it was an incredibly ill-judged move. It's right up there with the worst decisions ever made in the super-book. And though he did - as you say - claim to be returning the character to its roots, I couldn't grasp what part of the Vision's past he was supposedly returning him to. That was, of course, the stake through the heart of the character. What a wretched business.

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    2. Byrne seemed to feel Vision had become far too human-like and required a severe course correction; he also wanted the Vision to be a little creepier and unearthly as he'd been originally (hence the yellowish-white redesign).

      The flaw in his thinking is obvious to anyone who goes back to the Vision's first two appearances: he's noble, heroic and capable of intense emotion (ie, crying). Byrne's Vision isn't heroic, just a slave to his programming (he serves on the Avengers because his memory banks tell him he's an Avenger). He has all the emotion of Mr. Data with none of the curiosity or desires. He was about as flat a character as the All-Star Squadron's robot butler. It's possible Byrne was playing a long game and intended to gradually make the Vision a dynamic character again, but after about 18 months behind the wheel, he hadn't made any such moves.

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    3. Hello Michael:- I couldn't agree more with you. Hear hear. The idea that the Vision was a static, flat expression of machine determinism came not from the comics, but from Mr Byrne himself, who managed to misunderstand the character to a degree that few other creators have ever matched in the super-book as a whole.

      As you imply, there's a difference between a long game and consistently missing the point ...

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  9. Great list. Love seeing some classic Robot Archie as he was a real favourite when I was a kid. Also nice to see some ppraise for Battlestar Galactica and the fantastic Ernie Colon. Amethyst by Colon remains one of my favourite DC books of all time (alongside the oirinal Jonah Hex and Scalphunter) Simonsons run on Battlestar was also a real highlight of that period and far surpassed the TV show for me.

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    1. Hello Peter:- I did think that I ought to put some classic Robot Archie in even as I was lauding the character's Acid House rebirth. I hadn't meant to suggest that the original lacked charm, though, I must say, the E-upped dinosaur rider was more to my taste.

      I've been pleasantly surprised to hear that Battlestar is fondly remembered by a few good folks. There were some terrible issues in the run, not least the inventory issue of a Tarzan tale which got bashed into a terrible Galactica story. But the first 5 issues and most of the last 7 or so in the run were high quality stuff.

      And of course, no argument with you about Amethyst. I'm looking forward to the soon-coming Showcase Presents edition :)

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  10. Wonderful list. Did I miss some mention of Red Tornado? In retrospect, the character was never really done too well, but those JLA comics hit when I was the right age for them. When Reddy sacrificed himself to save the JLA, JSA, and the Seven Soldiers of Victory, I was as moved as only a nine-year-old can be by his heroism. Of course his numerous subsequent resurrections and re-sacrifices have diluted that original version.

    A shout-out, too, to Tomorrow Woman, the Tornado's little sister from Grant Morrison's JLA run, who similarly sacrificed herself.

    I miss Awesome Andy.

    -mikesensei

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    1. Hello Mike:- I too have a fondness for Red Tornado, though only for the character as he functioned in the Len Wein JLA stories. I was never grabbed by him outside of that run, but within it, "John Smith" was a compelling superhero version of Pinocchio. (That's a very under-rated run, and one of the few where the original JLA really shone.) I recall coming across #102, with the Tornado's sacrifice, and being entranced by the Nick Cardy cover, with Superman asking his fellows who was going to give their life. I can recall the local shop where I saw it. I can even remember that the comic sat next to an issue of New Gods #11. One of those childhood comicbook flashbulb memories. (Two great comics too.)

      I thought about Tomorrow Woman too. I did enjoy JLA#5 in which she appeared.

      Awesome Andy is, as you say, much-missed. A shame that She-Hulk just didn't grab the Rump's favour. But then, a strong female lead, convincing emotional content, wit, humour, a playful attitude to continuity ....

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  11. Great to see Cliff Steele in your list, Colin! I loved the way his grouchy everyman persona ( mostly ) concealed the terrifyingly existential crisis below the surface. The idea of a human brain / consciousness in a cold, metal body strikes me as genuinely unnerving and the epitome of isolation and loneliness. This concept has been seen in other places, of course, eg Chadwick's Concrete and the modern take on Doctor Who's Cybermen, but Grant Morrison's version is the best, for my money. And, after seeing that last scene with Crazy Jane, I seemed to get something in my eye...
    Maybe it was oil leaking out...

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    1. Hello cerebus660:- That last issue of the Morrison/Case Doom Patrol is a guaranteed tear-jerker, isn't it? ("There is a better world/Well, there must be ...") Beautifully, compassionately done, and I agree, the person-trapped-in-a-machine trope is hard to do better than Morrison and Cage did.

      Maybe it was oil leaking, or perhaps, as Gerber once had Howard the Duck suggest, there'd be a UFO or something in the sky ...

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  12. Charming list, Colin. I suspect you were reading Marvel UK's Avengers weekly when they had the contest to design a super-villain. The winner would see their creation used in a story. When the winner was finally revealed, Marvel UK claimed they had changed the name and here he was, the Super-Adaptoid! I doubt a single reader was convinced by that.

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    1. Hello Martin:- I had no idea. Scandal upon scandal. Was that the Pet Shop Boy regime? It's so shameless I can't stop chortling. There was a future in politics for whoever had the stones to try to pull that one off ....

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  13. No love for the Human Torch? (Well, indirectly, I suppose.)

    Ultron, of course.

    The problem with the Sentinels, and other 'unbeatable foes' like Galactus and the Borg, is that if you defeat them once, it seems amazing. Once you've defeated them 10 times, they're quite lame.

    Always felt the same way about Christopher Lee's Dracula. In the first movie he was 500 years old and you needed Peter Cushing to defeat him. With the series' strict continuity, each new chapter meant he came back to life and then ran around for a week or two only to be dispatched again by a parade of increasingly shoddy opponents. By the end of the series he was literally leaping onto stakes through sheer clumsiness.

    By the way, I was ironically asked to prove I wasn't a robot before I could post this.

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    1. Hello Ken:- You're right, it's an indirect love for the original Torch and Ultron. As fond of them as I am, it was the Vision who was one of my favourite characters as a lad, and so he gets the nod over the rest of his "family".

      You're of course quite right about the problem with recurring foes. It takes an incredible skill to make the Daleks a formidable gaggle of antagonists when the Doctor's been defeating them once a season - more or less - since 2005. And yet, I do sympathise with the companies there. Even if the Sentinels, for example, only appear once every three years, that's still 16 or 17 stories since 1965. I suppose that's one of the major challenges facing the super-book creator; can they make the long-familiar compelling?

      "By the way, I was ironically asked to prove I wasn't a robot before I could post this."

      I must say, you'd be more than welcome to post if you were. It'd be somewhat hypocritical to ban you from this topic for that reason ...

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  14. My three favorite things in the world at age 7: the Hulk, dinosaurs, & Transformers. Imagine my delight when they came out with a really strong, Hulk-speaking robot that turned into a tyrannosaurus. Grimlock was my apex toy, taking the place of my Mego Hulk (who no longer had pants).

    I understand the UK Transformers comics are fondly remembered and Grimlock was one of the featured characters. Cool. I don't have an attachment to the property as an adult, but man did I love the toys.

    - Mike Loughlin

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    1. Hello Mike:- Your 7 year old self seems to have had a remarkably fine sense of the important things in life. A Hulkesque toy who can turn into a T Rex sounds worryingly compelling to my - argh! - three days from 50 self!

      The UK Transformers comics are tremendously well regarded. Because I missed the toys, the TV series AND the comics, I have no sense of the why or wherefore of the whole business. But I do know that I've yet to hear or see a single bad word on the subject. Which of course makes me think that I ought to keep an eye out at the local library.

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  15. Then perhaps someday we'll answer the eternal question of whether even a spambot can cry.

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    1. Hello Ken:- There must be a twelve-part, cross-company Event book in that :)

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